Leo Editor

#1

Post by satvikpendem » Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 5:17 AM UTC

Leo Editor
leoeditor.com

Re: Leo Editor

#2

Post by JasonFruit » Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 11:22 PM UTC

The problem I had with Leo was that it tried to be so many things. On another page, their site calls it:

- A fully-featured IDE, with many features inspired by Emacs.

- An outliner. Everything in Leo is an outline.

- A data manager, data manager and personal information manager.

- A powerful scripting environment.

- A tool for organizing and studying computer code.

It claims to be for programmers, authors, and web designers, but I couldn't figure out how to make it good for anything. That may well be my fault, but the experience was frustrating.

Re: Leo Editor

#3

Post by ar-jan » Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 11:34 PM UTC

Very versatile editor. Also see the just-released integration with VS Code: https://github.com/boltex/leointeg.

Re: Leo Editor

#4

Post by stevesimmons » Mon, Sep 27, 2021, 12:02 AM UTC

ar-jan wrote: post #3

Very versatile editor. Also see the just-released integration with VS Code: https://github.com/boltex/leointeg .

Oooh. Thank you so much for pointing out the VS Code integration....

Five years ago, Leo was my main note-taking-while-dev-and-doing-projects application. Then I switched to Emacs and Org-mode. And more recently JupyterLab plus Markdown in VS Code.

This will let me go back to Leo, while staying inside VS Code :)

Re: Leo Editor

#5

Post by fiddlerwoaroof » Mon, Sep 27, 2021, 12:18 AM UTC

JasonFruit wrote: post #2

The problem I had with Leo was that it tried to be so many things. On another page, their site calls it: - A fully-featured IDE, with many features inspired by Emacs. - An outliner. Everything in Leo is an outline. - A data manager, data manager and personal information manager. - A powerful scripting environment. - A tool for organizing and studying computer code. It claims to be for programmers, authors, and web de…

I got really into it at one point (circa 2001) but kept running into memory leaks that made it really annoying.

It’s like vim or emacs (or even got :) ) in that it has a logarithmic learning curve: steep up front, but the concepts you learn up front have a lot of leverage later on.

Re: Leo Editor

#6

Post by satvikpendem » Mon, Sep 27, 2021, 1:06 AM UTC

ar-jan wrote: post #3

Very versatile editor. Also see the just-released integration with VS Code: https://github.com/boltex/leointeg .

And related comments about the VS Code integration

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17769892

Re: Leo Editor

#7

Post by nvr219 » Mon, Sep 27, 2021, 1:33 AM UTC

>Here is reduced screenshot of Leo's main window. You can view the full-sized image using something like "view image" in your browser.

What a weird sentence to read at this point of the Internet.

Re: Leo Editor

#8

Post by niccl » Mon, Sep 27, 2021, 1:45 AM UTC

fiddlerwoaroof wrote: post #5

JasonFruit wrote: post #2

The problem I had with Leo was that it tried to be so many things. On another page, their site calls it: - A fully-featured IDE, with many features inspired by Emacs. - An outliner. Everything in Leo is an outline. - A data manager, data manager and personal information manager. - A powerful scripting environment. - A tool for organizing and studying computer code. It claims to be for programmers, authors, and web de…

I got really into it at one point (circa 2001) but kept running into memory leaks that made it really annoying. It’s like vim or emacs (or even got :) ) in that it has a logarithmic learning curve: steep up front, but the concepts you learn up front have a lot of leverage later on.

I've been using it for getting on for 20 years. It's not the best editor (I use emacs for some things) and has some quirks, but the joy and simplicity of outlining code so far outweighs all the drawbacks that I still use it as my main editing environment.

In the past I've tried to get to grips with emacs org-mode for the same thing, but Emacs.

And Ed Ream is super-responsive if there are issues

Re: Leo Editor

#9

Post by dang » Mon, Sep 27, 2021, 3:06 AM UTC

Some past threads:

Leo Editor - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17769892 - Aug 2018 (108 comments)

Leo editor – “a revolutionary step in the right direction for programming” - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7843907 - June 2014 (48 comments)

LEO - Literate Programming editor in Python - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=734720 - July 2009 (2 comments)

Re: Leo Editor

#10

Post by leephillips » Mon, Sep 27, 2021, 3:15 AM UTC

niccl wrote: post #8

fiddlerwoaroof wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got really into it at one point (circa 2001) but kept running into memory leaks that made it really annoying. It’s like vim or emacs (or even got :) ) in that it has a logarithmic learning curve: steep up front, but the concepts you learn up front have a lot of leverage later on.

I've been using it for getting on for 20 years. It's not the best editor (I use emacs for some things) and has some quirks, but the joy and simplicity of outlining code so far outweighs all the drawbacks that I still use it as my main editing environment. In the past I've tried to get to grips with emacs org-mode for the same thing, but Emacs. And Ed Ream is super-responsive if there are issues

I outline my code, and other documents, by using folding in Vim. Plus plugins for Markdown, LaTeX, and other formats generate tables of contents from headers and sections.