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The world's worst Linux kernel module

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Re: The world's worst Linux kernel module

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Post by denton-scratch »

edoceo wrote: post #48
denton-scratch wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But some people seem to have an almost irrational hatred for it, far beyond what a mere software package calls for. That could be because somehow it's managed to become the default init on all mainstream distros, leaving few good options for those who would prefer to avoid it. I don't want to use a distro whose main raison-d'ètre is avoiding systemd.

Gentoo and others exist for far more reasons than just avoiding systemd.

Hmm, I thought Gentoo defaulted to systemd. Rather, I learn that it's an 'alternative'.

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Gentoo_Without_systemd

Looks like you have to do a bit of tinkering to ensure it stays free of systemd. Same with Debian, which I use with SysV init. But it took a couple of hours tweaking to switch - perhaps one of the other inits might have been easier to switch to.

Re: The world's worst Linux kernel module

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Post by smhenderson »

rualca wrote: post #7
tempaccnt wrote: post #4

Glad to find Systemd mentioned on HN. Just kidding: systemd is not a kernel module.

Does anyone know why this comment is being buried? It's clearly a good spirited joke.

Just look at what a long thread your comment has spawned below. And most, if not all, of these comments have nothing to do with the topic the article is about.

It's not just a lack of appreciation for jokes, it actively hijacks the conversation and, as a reader, I have to now start collapsing whole threads and hunting and pecking to get back on topic.

And here I am adding to the mess I'm complaining about...

I appreciate a good joke and there are definitely appropriate ways to slip one in on HN but this is not one of those and I'd say it's less about it being a joke and more about it being off-topic.

Edit: Just to add to this, I just refreshed the page and the majority of the comments here are now replies to the PP about SD and another, similar, joke about how the article must be referring to the NVidia kernel driver. Actual comments about TFA are minimal and the whole post seems to just have been completely taken over by content that's not relevant to the discussion. Now please down-vote me for wasting every one's time by pointing this out!

Re: The world's worst Linux kernel module

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Post by guenthert »

cratermoon wrote: post #57
zamadatix wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.10/process/coding-style.h... "Do not unnecessarily use braces where a single statement will do."

I wonder if anyone has done an analysis of kernel code to find all the cases where brace-less statements introduced bugs.

It's C, not Perl. The Linux kernel is not the best place to start with programming.

Re: The world's worst Linux kernel module

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Post by [deleted] »

IshKebab wrote: post #14
anonydsfsfs wrote: post #3

> Caveat: this is my first ever kernel module, so I may have committed more mistakes than I intended. lol. Reminds me of the "hypocrite commits" fiasco where researchers at the University of Minnesota submitted kernel patches with what they thought were security vulnerabilities, but because of their inexperience, the first patch they sent was actually valid and had no vulnerabilities whatsoever[1]. [1] https://www-us…

It doesn't sound like it was "because of their inexperience" but rather because determining whether Linux C code is buggy is really hard . That's kind of the whole point.

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Re: The world's worst Linux kernel module

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Post by throwaway19937 »

rimliu wrote: post #8
rualca wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone know why this comment is being buried? It's clearly a good spirited joke.

HN is not into jokes very much, need to keep that "we are better than reddit" flag high.

(https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2965166) is an example of well-received humor; it's one of the top rated comments.

Re: The world's worst Linux kernel module

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Post by edoceo »

denton-scratch wrote: post #61
edoceo wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gentoo and others exist for far more reasons than just avoiding systemd.

Hmm, I thought Gentoo defaulted to systemd. Rather, I learn that it's an 'alternative'. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Gentoo_Without_systemd Looks like you have to do a bit of tinkering to ensure it stays free of systemd. Same with Debian, which I use with SysV init. But it took a couple of hours tweaking to switch - perhaps one of the other inits might have been easier to switch to.

My Gentoos have been OpenRC since forever. And maintaining that requires just one USE flag.

I've never tried to move debian to not-systemd.

Re: The world's worst Linux kernel module

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Post by nobody9999 »

nobody9999 wrote: post #38
rualca wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone know why this comment is being buried? It's clearly a good spirited joke.

Because having a sense of humor is frowned upon here. Want to laugh? Go to a comedy club.

The down votes kind of prove my point.

Which is rich, rich irony and quite amusing.

Then again, as I mentioned elsewhere, I'm very easily amused.

Re: The world's worst Linux kernel module

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Post by dangsface »

macintux wrote: post #49
rimliu wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN is not into jokes very much, need to keep that "we are better than reddit" flag high.

I think "different from" suffices. One technical social media site without snark and acrimony doesn't seem like too much to ask.

Because it lacks humanity. It seems like you have to be on the spectrum or the fascist cunt known as dang will come to make sure that the dissemination of information remain bleached and boring. This is why no one likes tech companies.

Who will be the first virtue signalling bastard to scream gaslighting?

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