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China declares cryptocurrency deals ‘illegal’

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Re: China declares cryptocurrency deals ‘illegal’

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So don't use it duh

It’s an externalities problem. I can not use it, but I can’t opt out of the climate impact. (Save the “it’s not really that bad” arguments, I’ve heard all the industry’s gaslighting, but their claims don’t match reality)

Yep, you also can't opt out of the impact on the semiconductor market, the e-waste production (kinda part of the climate too), the ransomware explosion, the wider economic consequences of LITERAL BILLION DOLLAR PONZI SCHEMES…

Re: China declares cryptocurrency deals ‘illegal’

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That’s not exactly how it works.

Regardless of law, intent, etc, this is how it functionally ends up happening, a nonzero amount of the time.

That's what ends up happening when an asset becomes economically meaningful. Crypto is still a joke to global economy, but on the off chance it gains mainstream adoption, it'll have the same kind of regulations, taxation and fraud attached to it.

Re: China declares cryptocurrency deals ‘illegal’

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I hope the rest of world follows. There is nothing more volatile than a decentralised crypto currency. The amount of people making a profit from it is less than 5% and energy consumption is beyond acceptable. Crypto as a tech to serve something different is totally fine of course.

You can always dream, of course, but it ain't gonna happen.

Crypto's, especially Bitcoin, are too enshrined in the financial world to be banned in the West.

Re: China declares cryptocurrency deals ‘illegal’

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Only PoW cryptos need extensive electricity and hardware. Its completely absurd to ban crypto. Thats like if you would ban all motorized vehicles to get rid of coal blasting diesel trucks without catalytic converter. Needless to say that its also technically impossible to ban crypto. Its like banning torrents or even harder and we all know torrent was attacked heavily in the past but it did not go away.

If its banned then not only can government shutdown large mining operations but government resources can be spent on 51% attacks to discredit them.

Literally irrelevant for any non-PoW coin out there aka the majority of all coins.

Re: China declares cryptocurrency deals ‘illegal’

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I hope the rest of world follows. There is nothing more volatile than a decentralised crypto currency. The amount of people making a profit from it is less than 5% and energy consumption is beyond acceptable. Crypto as a tech to serve something different is totally fine of course.

So don't use it duh

There are some concerns which I share, that Bitcoin, when it finally fails, leaves huge damages to all financial markets as too much money is already bound in there. And directly, the environmental damage done by bitcoin is quite severe, so everyone should be concerned about that.

Re: China declares cryptocurrency deals ‘illegal’

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I hope the rest of world follows. There is nothing more volatile than a decentralised crypto currency. The amount of people making a profit from it is less than 5% and energy consumption is beyond acceptable. Crypto as a tech to serve something different is totally fine of course.

There is plenty of profit being made from selling hardware and software services in the space. Also, are you suggesting banning all assets whose volatility crosses a certain threshold? As for energy consumption, does this also apply to Proof of Stake networks?

Only those that challenge existing economic power structures.

Re: China declares cryptocurrency deals ‘illegal’

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I hope the rest of world follows. There is nothing more volatile than a decentralised crypto currency. The amount of people making a profit from it is less than 5% and energy consumption is beyond acceptable. Crypto as a tech to serve something different is totally fine of course.

I won't downplay the environmental consequences of PoW, but the actual reason so many governments are speeding the push against crypto might be related to a future of high inflation and high gov debt. It would be the perfect storm for mainstream crypto adoption.

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I hope the rest of world follows. There is nothing more volatile than a decentralised crypto currency. The amount of people making a profit from it is less than 5% and energy consumption is beyond acceptable. Crypto as a tech to serve something different is totally fine of course.

Only PoW cryptos need extensive electricity and hardware. Dont make crypto just bitcoins. If you really want to help make a dent in the energy consumption then people need to move away from PoW coins not from crypto in general.

How exactly do you incentivize anyone ever to abandon PoW coins rather than just adding non-PoW on the side?

How exactly do you think you could dethrone Bitcoin, overcoming its gigantic first-mover advantage?

I believe BTC could only come down with the rest of that "economy".

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