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Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by GeorgeOu »

It was frustrating how my Dell XPS Laptop would frequently wake up in the laptop bag. When I open the bag, the laptop was near smoking hot. I fixed it by disabling Modern Standby but a Microsoft update killed that registry hack and I was forced to fully shut down the laptop.

Then my work Dell Precision 5530 started doing the same thing and I'm forced to shut it down. The problem was that particular laptop took several minutes to boot due to a slow BIOS post and corporate bloatware.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by tinus_hn »

guax wrote: post #32

Oh, come on, sleep and hibernation are the "shut down" of a laptop nowadays, you close the lid and shove it into the bag. Its just as absurd as saying you cant put the phone in your pocket unless you fully turn it off.

You’re not really supposed to bring a phone that close to your skin, otherwise you might exceed safe radiation levels.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by siva7 »

gotstad wrote: post #54

I will never buy a Dell XPS laptop again. The exterior build quality seems very good, but the internals are such a mess. I cannot count how many times I have been biking home from work and heard in my headphones "Two devices connected", realizing that my Dell XPS had woken up and would - once again - be red hot when I arrived home and pulled it out of my bag.

Same experience. I can't understand how a company like Dell isn't capable of avoiding such design mistakes with their laptop line.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by thaumasiotes »

zokier wrote: post #75
vesinisa wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is so infuriating, because this problem has already been solved once. It's called "Hibernation", and was added in Windows 95. This should write your MEM image to disk, power the laptop completely off and allow later restoring where you left when powering your laptop back on. But laptop manufacturers (including Apple) thought it somehow smart to remove true hibernation, and replace it with some botched "deep slee…

Hibernation in Windows hasn't gone anywhere. I have a Dell laptop in front of me and it has hibernate in the start menu as normal. Problem is that hibernation is slooow so people don't like to use it

I have a Dell laptop I bought within the last couple of months. Hibernate is not in the start menu, and the option to add it to the start menu has been disabled.

It's still possible to assign "hibernate" as the action taken in response to various power-related actions such as closing the lid or pressing the power button. This makes no sense; I'm not sure what's going on.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by jraph »

tomp wrote: post #46
qwerty456127 wrote: post #12

> With regards to transporting your laptop, you must first turn the laptop OFF This has been a problem for already quite long. I remember my very old laptop overheating if being put in the backpack in Standby mode. Nowadays I in fact don't just turn laptops Off the default way. I go and disable the "fast start up" (Control Panel - Power Options - Choose what the power buttons do) to make sure the computer gets turnt…

Wow, it's quite fascinating what you non-Mac people are willing to put up with. Or maybe it's fascinating how Mac JustWorks(TM).

Read the thread just next to your comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28640283

It's also Macs.

Computers are complicated, some things are probably released with a tight schedule, things are not formally verified, and therefore have bugs. Hardware or software. It's sad but we have to deal with it.

Sleep has been working well on Linux on the machines I've been using for the past years (especially after removing a defective RAM stick from one of them - and the computer is built in such a way I could do it myself easily!). But yes, once or twice, the computer won't go to sleep because I'm running updates (that I launched manually, mind you), or some other shit.

I've taken the habit of checking that the computer actually went to sleep before putting it in a bag and you should, too, for the one time your Mac won't go to sleep because who knows why.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by joeberon »

chriswarbo wrote: post #88
joeberon wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not going to lie but Apple have put pretty high standards on what people expect to work with all laptops nowadays, and many OEMs seem unable or unwilling to try to catch up.

Apple laptops have their own problems, like delivering mild electric shocks from their exposed-metal cases. Unfortunately the trend of copying Apple has lead to other manufacturers having exposed-metal cases, and inheriting this flaw.

Yes, I have noticed this too. Still, to me that is very minor compared to some people's descriptions of literally red hot XPS's in their backpacks here...

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by gpderetta »

JonyEpsilon wrote: post #37

I have an XPS 9500 and have found this infuriating. I think there's two separate things going on: As others have noted, S3 sleep isn't supported, only S1 "sleep to idle" sleep. But I don't think this is the direct cause of the overheating. In S1 sleep, the laptop can average something like 900mW of power usage, which is enough to annoyingly knock a few percent off your battery overnight, but not enough to make the la…

My wife had a similar problem with her XPS-15. Randomly during the night the laptop would warm up and cause the fans to spin up. Apparently this is caused by windows waking up. Initially I thought it was windows deciding to do an update, but even disabling that (if it is possible at all), the laptop would wakeup. Random trailing through the internet pointed to the useless Killer network drivers, or better the management application, to be the cause and uninstalling them was supposed to fix the issue. Anecdotally it seemed to have worked, but when I last checked the drivers seemed to be back.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by anjc »

Had this issue with my XPS 9570. I also had the heatsink issue that is well documented by now, and upon opening it found further significant manufacturing defects that Dell refused to acknowledge.

Never buying a Dell again. It's a pity because they appear solid and well-made from appearances and specs.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by claaams »

harlekein wrote: post #65
gotstad wrote: post #54

I will never buy a Dell XPS laptop again. The exterior build quality seems very good, but the internals are such a mess. I cannot count how many times I have been biking home from work and heard in my headphones "Two devices connected", realizing that my Dell XPS had woken up and would - once again - be red hot when I arrived home and pulled it out of my bag.

I've had three generations of the XPS 13. The first I had had a few issues, but fixable. (Even though I agree, this shouldn't even have occurred) The second one was flawless. The last one was worse than the first and it's my last. I've set my sights on Lenovo now. X1 Carbon is supposed to be really good for Linux and you can buy it with Ubuntu or no OS installed.

I hate x1 carbons with windows. The t series has been much better but I think carbones are ok with ubuntu.
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