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Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by zxcvbn4038 »

undecisive wrote: post #36

Reminds me of the push a while back to rebrand laptops as "notebooks" - because many laptops (esp Dell XPS) are not built with a strong enough backbone to keep their own weight from sagging in the middle, and because they get hot enough to cause damage to legs. I have had an XPS since 2017, it had everything I wanted (I thought) - but I seriously regretted the decision almost immediately. High-intensity tasks (gaming…

Dells were the only laptops I ever encountered that you could bend. It’s amazing anyone other then starving college kids ever used them.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by cies »

XPS should be "developer laptops". They even come with Linux. So I tried two.

Never experienced a more faulty keyboard on a computer in my life. Hanging keys, firmware updates that never really fixed the problem, support forums full of same questions. I'll never buy one again.

Too bad as I wanted to support "big brand w/ Linux preinstalled".

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by toxik »

The entire fucking point in a laptop is to be portable. If you _have_ to shut it down completely before putting it in a bag, it’s not a laptop as any sane person expects it to have that ability.

It’s absolutely astonishing that Dell, Microsoft and friends leave walk over in the laptop industry like this. “Oh we decided users don’t really want to be able to close the lid and go home.” ??????

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by gotstad »

I will never buy a Dell XPS laptop again. The exterior build quality seems very good, but the internals are such a mess.

I cannot count how many times I have been biking home from work and heard in my headphones "Two devices connected", realizing that my Dell XPS had woken up and would - once again - be red hot when I arrived home and pulled it out of my bag.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by WesolyKubeczek »

I've had this happen to me once with an XPS13-9360.

I use Linux on my laptops exclusively, and it was supposed to enter S3 just fine. But after I closed the lid, something went wrong, and instead of suspending it actually started hogging 100% of CPU. I was unaware of it, and put it into my backpack. Shortly after, I had noticed that my back felt unusually warm. When I got it out, it was infuriatingly hot, almost scalding. I kept pressing down the power button until it turned off, and held it in the open air until both it and the inside of my backpack cooled off enough. Thankfully, it was a cold winter evening, so it didn't take very long.

It's been 3 years now, the laptop works to this day nicely, even after suffering a bent edge on the screen assembly after falling down.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #12

> With regards to transporting your laptop, you must first turn the laptop OFF This has been a problem for already quite long. I remember my very old laptop overheating if being put in the backpack in Standby mode. Nowadays I in fact don't just turn laptops Off the default way. I go and disable the "fast start up" (Control Panel - Power Options - Choose what the power buttons do) to make sure the computer gets turnt…

Can confirm, this was an issue ten years ago and I can't understand why it still is a problem.

Mind you, I've had it with an older model Macbook as well, wouldn't go to sleep properly when closed / off of power / in a bag.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by vesinisa »

captn3m0 wrote: post #50
vesinisa wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is so infuriating, because this problem has already been solved once. It's called "Hibernation", and was added in Windows 95. This should write your MEM image to disk, power the laptop completely off and allow later restoring where you left when powering your laptop back on. But laptop manufacturers (including Apple) thought it somehow smart to remove true hibernation, and replace it with some botched "deep slee…

There’s some really interesting security challenges that pop-up with Hibernation. Not sure if they blocked Apple though.

Anyone who is concerned about this should already be using full-disk encryption, which means the memory contents are actually better protected during hibernation than in a live state.

This is one thing that usually Linux gets mostly right .. only if the proprietary GPU drivers played along. Meanwhile, Microsoft and Apple certainly could implement this properly but instead decide to release a new half-assed half-hibernation after another.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by creshal »

Raed667 wrote: post #39
qwerty456127 wrote: post #12

> With regards to transporting your laptop, you must first turn the laptop OFF This has been a problem for already quite long. I remember my very old laptop overheating if being put in the backpack in Standby mode. Nowadays I in fact don't just turn laptops Off the default way. I go and disable the "fast start up" (Control Panel - Power Options - Choose what the power buttons do) to make sure the computer gets turnt…

> laptop overheating if being put in the backpack I killed a macbook air exactly like this. It just decided not to shutdown like usual. Usually I'd put it on sleep mode, or just close the lid and it is fine, but it only took one time for it not to work properly to find the insides of my backpack like a sauna.

> It just decided not to shutdown like usual.

This happened once or twice with Windows laptops for me (Lenovo and Asus); but each time the laptop survived. Was yours a fanless model?

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