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Re: Discontinue Sourcetrail

#21
This is extremely unfortunate. I've found Sourcetrail so useful for my work. I'd continue paying just to keep the current functionality working without adding anything new.

Re: Discontinue Sourcetrail

#22
Too bad, it was a good product. It appeared around the same time we launched QuantifiedCode, which was a static analysis & automated refactoring SaaS. Our learning was that developer tools are really hard to monetize, except maybe from the security/compliance/productivity angle (which doesn't really target developers though, more their superiors). Developers are just used to "everything" being free & open-source and large organizations like Github/Microsoft keep pushing this angle, as they can monetize their products differently in the long term.

Not sure if this will be good for the developer community though, it seems right now the large cloud players are trying to lock them into a closed ecosystem from which it will be hard to escape. Most open-source code already lives on Github and I'd wager that in 5-10 years most development will take place in cloud solutions, as the complexity of systems increases and makes local development harder. When that has happened I think it's not unreasonable the large players will tighten the screws on developers a bit and start squeezing out more money from them, since it will become very hard to migrate away from that entire ecosystem.

Re: Discontinue Sourcetrail

#23
Really sad to read this. sourcetrail helped me to understand a foreign codebase when I started my last job. The ability to navigate who-calls-who and who-implements-who back and forth is invaluable, and the search bar is fantastic. This morning I woke up and fantasized about forking the project to keep it alive, but I understand that the work behind it is too much to keep it as a side project.

Re: Discontinue Sourcetrail

#24

Hmm. Hard to monetize I guess. Does anyone know of any code analysis software that looks at dataflow ? Specifically for embedded contexts, a lot of code is written in a very non-functional style, where the output of one module is a series of global variables. That variable is then picked up by other modules as an input, and used to calculate that modules output, etc etc. I'd pay big $$$ for any software that would te…

https://lattix.com/ can produce impact reports showing “changing X affects A, B and Y on the first level which in turn affects C, D, E, F and Z on the second level” and so on…

https://scitools.com/ Understand can answer similar questions and tries to perform flow analysis “through” function pointers as well.

Re: Discontinue Sourcetrail

#25
post #23

Really sad to read this. sourcetrail helped me to understand a foreign codebase when I started my last job. The ability to navigate who-calls-who and who-implements-who back and forth is invaluable, and the search bar is fantastic. This morning I woke up and fantasized about forking the project to keep it alive, but I understand that the work behind it is too much to keep it as a side project.

If it's a useful and helpful tool (and I assume it is from what you've said), what's the problem? It's not as though the existing tool is suddenly going to stop working.

Re: Discontinue Sourcetrail

#26
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get how people can use anything else for development. They handle all the little stuff so you can focus on the code.

Some of us were already using IDEs before JetBrains was founded.

Of course! You and me both. Were you perhaps a Visual C++ or Eclipse use back in those days?

Anyway, let's take GP's comment to mean "JetBrains and other great IDEs". Then we can all agree. :-)

Re: Discontinue Sourcetrail

#27

I'm disappointed that JetBrains do not integrate SourceTrail-like functionality in Intellij and their other IDEs. It just seems to be such a natural (and marketable) feature to bring the IDE experience to the next level. (I'm aware that SourceTrail plugin exists but it did not work well for me) I'm slowly getting the impression that IDEs for JetBrains became just a cash cow with limited dedicated developer resources…

Jetbrains IDEs had the "find usage" feature before sourcetrail existed. Eclipse as well. I'm not sure what sourcetrail brought new to the table.

Re: Discontinue Sourcetrail

#28
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of us were already using IDEs before JetBrains was founded.

Of course! You and me both. Were you perhaps a Visual C++ or Eclipse use back in those days? Anyway, let's take GP's comment to mean "JetBrains and other great IDEs". Then we can all agree. :-)

I still am. :)

Re: Discontinue Sourcetrail

#29
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get how people can use anything else for development. They handle all the little stuff so you can focus on the code.

Some of us were already using IDEs before JetBrains was founded.

I also remember using and marveling at Visual Studio 6.0. But the understanding of the word IDE back then and now is vastly different.

Re: Discontinue Sourcetrail

#30
post #27

I'm disappointed that JetBrains do not integrate SourceTrail-like functionality in Intellij and their other IDEs. It just seems to be such a natural (and marketable) feature to bring the IDE experience to the next level. (I'm aware that SourceTrail plugin exists but it did not work well for me) I'm slowly getting the impression that IDEs for JetBrains became just a cash cow with limited dedicated developer resources…

Jetbrains IDEs had the "find usage" feature before sourcetrail existed. Eclipse as well. I'm not sure what sourcetrail brought new to the table.

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