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NASA finds DNA components in meteorites, says they originated in space

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I have always been curious as to how religion will tackle proof of alien life. Do aliens get to go to heaven?

Religion doesn't need a literal interpretation to succeed, they'd just sweep it under the rug like everything else. Indeed, I think the majority of religious people do not believe much literally, and at least many of them are simply believers in belief.

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I have always been curious as to how religion will tackle proof of alien life. Do aliens get to go to heaven?

Your second sentance is irrelevant, it's not like every living thing on earth is believed to go to heaven.

I do not agree that it is completely irrelevant when including the possibilities of life at a higher intellectual level. It would still put religion in a difficult position; if God created humans, he must have created aliens. At what intellectual level would you set the barrier? Must it demonstrate empathy? Love? And who would decide? What gives a human the right, as it clearly is the guy in the sky that is the gatekeeper.

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post #11
post #8

I have always been curious as to how religion will tackle proof of alien life. Do aliens get to go to heaven?

Religion doesn't need a literal interpretation to succeed, they'd just sweep it under the rug like everything else. Indeed, I think the majority of religious people do not believe much literally, and at least many of them are simply believers in belief.

I totally agree. Still, a discovery so profound as first contact must have some impact to their belief. But then again, my guess is that when this discovery is made, the larger part of the world are secularists.

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I have always been curious as to how religion will tackle proof of alien life. Do aliens get to go to heaven?

My religion has taught me there was alien life since I was a child. I was also taught that all humans and all animal life will be resurrected. It's not too hard to extrapolate that intelligent alien species, should they exist, would as well. So maybe the answer to your question is "It depends on the religion."

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My biggest fear is dying before mankind finds the definite scientific answer to death and our origin/s. We seem to be so near (~ one century away).

We seem to be reaching good enough models (arguably some of them will be thoroughly reproducible in laboratories soon enough). But I don't think we'll arrive at a definite answer here. My guess is that we'll come up with multiple ways it could've happened, along with their respective degrees of likelihood.

/me leans back on his armchair

Re: NASA finds DNA components in meteorites, says they originated in space

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post #8

I have always been curious as to how religion will tackle proof of alien life. Do aliens get to go to heaven?

Your second sentance is irrelevant, it's not like every living thing on earth is believed to go to heaven.

It may be relevant precisely because not every living thing on earth is believed to go to heaven. "But these guys don't get to go to heaven" is part of the rationale behind a lot of modern genocides, and before that many cases of slaughter and slavery. If we or the aliens are to think that of each other, hey, that's enough premise for a real-life Hollywood classic.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your second sentance is irrelevant, it's not like every living thing on earth is believed to go to heaven.

I do not agree that it is completely irrelevant when including the possibilities of life at a higher intellectual level. It would still put religion in a difficult position; if God created humans, he must have created aliens. At what intellectual level would you set the barrier? Must it demonstrate empathy? Love? And who would decide? What gives a human the right, as it clearly is the guy in the sky that is the gatek…

The Bible for example is very clear about the one who is making the decisions: God, or guy in the sky as you call it. So I don't think that would be a problem for religion.

And I think this news is still no proof for skeptical people (like myself). They found molecules that are very rare on earth and are now suggesting they originated in space:

"...but were unsure whether these materials actually originate in space. The presence of these three molecules, however, suggest that they do, potentially raising new questions..."

So just new questions and suggestions. No proof of alien life for me. But interesting!

Re: NASA finds DNA components in meteorites, says they originated in space

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The original NASA article: http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/dna-meteorit...

Thanks for the link. Makes me wonder, if life did come from space then we will have to start exploring space more seriously. The possibility of a aliens existing somewhere else cannot be ignored any longer.

Re: NASA finds DNA components in meteorites, says they originated in space

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your second sentance is irrelevant, it's not like every living thing on earth is believed to go to heaven.

I do not agree that it is completely irrelevant when including the possibilities of life at a higher intellectual level. It would still put religion in a difficult position; if God created humans, he must have created aliens. At what intellectual level would you set the barrier? Must it demonstrate empathy? Love? And who would decide? What gives a human the right, as it clearly is the guy in the sky that is the gatek…

Way OT but… you are making a categorical error: (putting aside what you may or may not think about Christianity… but) Christianity asserts that the only reason people (or beings) are not going to heaven is because of their sin (defined as, “any want of conformity to or transgression of the law of God”). To presuppose that any theoretical aliens have sin is wholly unwarranted. There is no need for any Christian to assume any status as regards heaven in relation to an alien.

Also; the existence or lack of existence of any alien life form would have no theological bearing on the western church. (That’s not to say that it would in the east. I just am ignorant of the details -- though if I was a betting man I would say that it is the same in that case also.) Wouldn’t change a thing; and not because it would get “swept under the carpet” but because it really changes nothing core to the dogma deemed necessary for the western church (i.e. the Ecumenical creeds).

And, just as an even further aside, some prominent Christian theologians believe that aliens might exist.

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