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Eh, people would care for about 5 minutes, just like everything else. Remember when basically every American adult with a credit history had their entire credit files stolen? How many people do you hear talking about that now?

That is materially different than having your cash stolen from you by a seemingly random person at the airport. One results in a very small probability of it affecting you in any way, the other is someone stealing from you.

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Re: TSA’s “See cash, seize cash” policy

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It's surreal to me how little political or public support there is for ending these kinds of egregious government overreaches.

I don’t think regular voters like the policy; they just don’t have any input. Plus there is only so much bandwidth for legislative process, and that’s pretty log-jammed by some hot topic issues lately.

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It's surreal to me how little political or public support there is for ending these kinds of egregious government overreaches.

Especially when one party seemingly champions “civil rights” or “the little guy”, and the other party champions “small government”. And yet a government employee stealing someone’s cash with no justification does not fall under any of those categories.

As mentioned in the tweets, the bipartisan FAIR act is supposed to reform civil asset forfeiture.

Re: TSA’s “See cash, seize cash” policy

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Here's more information on the Institute for Justice class action (mentioned in the Twitter thread) that's challenging TSA airport forfeitures:

https://ij.org/case/dea-tsa-forfeitures/

IJ is the leader on this issue, and if you oppose civil-forfeiture abuse, you might consider supporting IJ's work.

(Disclosure: the IJ attorney pictured in the thread is a friend whom I admire greatly.)

Re: TSA’s “See cash, seize cash” policy

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People, generally, want to be able to pay electronically too. It is very convenient.

My experience is the opposite. I can open up my wallet and take out a $1000 bill* in about three seconds; if change is due, that typically takes about another ten seconds. Paying with a credit card takes about a minute, four to ten times less convenient, except a significant percentage of the time the time " no hay sistema " and it just doesn't work, and sooner or later your credit card number gets sold to the Russia…

Why would paying with a credit card take a minute? It's 3s with contactless, and since covid it doesn't require a pin code.

Re: TSA’s “See cash, seize cash” policy

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> Lyon arrived @RDUAirport & gave his bag to @TSA to be scanned. He says he absolutely knew TSA would see the cash, but said he also knew there is no law limiting the amount of cash one can fly with in the U.S.

Here's the real problem. Civil asset forfeiture is an extralegal action. It's outside the legal system, which is why it's nearly impossible to get your money back. It's why the legality of what Lyon was doing doesn't matter. It's not a system of law, but power. He who has the power makes the law on the spot.

That the US collectively has resigned itself to this level of clear overreach, utterly indefensible on any legal grounds, not to mention the bill of rights, says a lot about what 9/11 has done.

The terrorists won the battle the people of this country thought they were fighting.

Re: TSA’s “See cash, seize cash” policy

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post #26
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My experience is the opposite. I can open up my wallet and take out a $1000 bill* in about three seconds; if change is due, that typically takes about another ten seconds. Paying with a credit card takes about a minute, four to ten times less convenient, except a significant percentage of the time the time " no hay sistema " and it just doesn't work, and sooner or later your credit card number gets sold to the Russia…

Why would paying with a credit card take a minute? It's 3s with contactless, and since covid it doesn't require a pin code.

Beats me. When did credit cards ever require a PIN, though?

Re: TSA’s “See cash, seize cash” policy

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People, generally, want to be able to pay electronically too. It is very convenient.

My experience is the opposite. I can open up my wallet and take out a $1000 bill* in about three seconds; if change is due, that typically takes about another ten seconds. Paying with a credit card takes about a minute, four to ten times less convenient, except a significant percentage of the time the time " no hay sistema " and it just doesn't work, and sooner or later your credit card number gets sold to the Russia…

Gee man, it sounds like you live in quite the hell hole. Move to a decent country, you’ll be happier.
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