I don't know the timelines for these things, but how would this work if someone wanted to introduce a hypothetical USB-D? They'd just need to petition the EU once a new standard was adopted?
EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all phones
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> What's Apple reasoning for not abandoning Lightning for USB-C on their phones? I can think of 3 reasons: 1. A lightning port is slightly smaller than USB-c, so it enable Apple to keep their phone slimmer than the competition in theory. 2. Apple loves to be in control of everything. With lightning, they could make a switch to a "lightning 2.O" cable / port whenever they so pleased. With USB-C they would be restricte…
Can't one make similar arguments for cars for types of gasoline(beyond premium gas) and the gas pump/tank receptacle design?
Similar-ish but the waste aspect isn't there: each car does not come with its own gas station and most people do not own multiple redundant gas stations already.
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Wait isn't unbundling the sale of the charger the thing everyone got mad at Apple for? And now they are legislating it?
Apple didn't lower the price after removing the charger.
The charger probably costs about $1 to the BoM. I wouldn’t expect to see any change.
But this is not the biggest thing which is that the parts of the iPhone do not determine the price. The price is already set and determines what parts go in. If something somewhere else becomes cheaper, that’s more room in the budget to spend elsewhere whether that be better hardware, hiring more software developers, higher skilled retail workers, etc.
In the end it’s up to the user to decide if what’s in the box provides enough value to justify the price. And from the sales data of the last year, that’s an astounding yes.
Re: EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all phones
#644I don't know the timelines for these things, but how would this work if someone wanted to introduce a hypothetical USB-D? They'd just need to petition the EU once a new standard was adopted?
I can only say I really, really hope this substantially slows down the introduction of new ports and connectors. USB-C is a n overly complicated clusterfuck, but it'll do for the vast majority of applications for a very long time.
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If we're only allowed to use one connector, it had better be the "better one".
If the better one is expensive (e.g. the creator asks for license fees), we should choose the cheaper one. Just like the VHS has beaten the Betamax.
I'd rather pay for the nice one to be honest. So I guess we can't just have one connector.
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We don't really know that -- USB-C hasn't been out long enough. I can tell you that for durability I hate lightning, because it always seems to have connection problems after a while and the plug itself seems overly complex for what it does. I can't recall ever having any such connection problems with micro USB or USB A for example. In general it's easy to see also that the lightning connector itself is far more expo…
Get a toothpick an scrape out the socket.
Lovely! What a solid design.
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WiFi is vulnerable to many, many, many, many attacks. How do you backup iPhone to NAS? Do you mean mounting a NAS drive on a PC/Mac and then using WiFi for iTunes backup?
I'm curious what your threat model is. State actors? Hanging out at DEFCON?
Corporate IP protection, which these days includes state threats.
A recent WiFi vulnerablity, https://www.fragattacks.com/
> The discovered vulnerabilities affect all modern security protocols of Wi-Fi, including the latest WPA3 specification. Even the original security protocol of Wi-Fi, called WEP, is affected. This means that several of the newly discovered design flaws have been part of Wi-Fi since its release in 1997! Fortunately, the design flaws are hard to abuse because doing so requires user interaction or is only possible when using uncommon network settings. As a result, in practice the biggest concern are the programming mistakes in Wi-Fi products since several of them are trivial to exploit.
Re: EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all phones
#648Good, though in practice it's not the charger the problem, I use the same USB plug everywhere, it's Apple and their cable. Right now I always need with me a micro USB cable, an USB-C one, and Lightning, because Apple thinks different™. What's Apple reasoning for not abandoning Lightning for USB-C on their phones?
> What's Apple reasoning for not abandoning Lightning for USB-C on their phones?
The benefits don't outweigh the inconveniences of switching. There's a mature ecosystem around Lightning for third party accessories. And at 50% market share, their cables are pretty ubiquitous. [0]
And they added Lightning charging to other products they ship (Apple Pencil, Mouse, Keyboard, Remote...).
Right now, I don't think USB-C, especially with the smart cables that might or might not support every features, is an improvement over Lightning.
[0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/266572/market-share-held...
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I renewed five contracts this year, neither of them had the same amount of data for roaming as they did for local. Calls and SMS, they did (unlimited, basically). This seems to be the norm for Orange here. I would assume the same goes for Vodafone since they generally seemed to always offer less for more. That being said, it's absolutely lovely to be able to travel for business or holiday and to be able to find your…
If memory serves, the amount of roaming data you get is computed on the basis of 'what would you get if you paid roughly the same amount of money to a typical provider in the country where I am travelling', with some caps in both directions. I live in Italy which has low prices, so I get 50 GB/mo for 8€ (and 200 GB/mo during the summer). Last summer I travelled to Austria and Czechia, I had 4GB available in both coun…
That's interesting, thanks you for the explanation, makes sense to me!
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Charging a car over a 3.5mm headphone jack, that would certainly be worthy of a HN post ...
The engineer in me says I want to quit my job and spend the next 6 months and $100k prototyping a 3.5mm compatible jack that can charge a car, and safe even when licked by toddlers, underwater, full of grit, and cut with powertools... But the business person tells me that even if I could do it and make it safe enough to use, there is zero chance any big company would license the tech.
No, but I'd jump at the opportunity to build my startup around your tech