Covid-19 overtakes 1918 Spanish flu as deadliest disease in American history
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Re: Covid-19 overtakes 1918 Spanish flu as deadliest disease in American history
#2Suppose I go to the hospital with a stubbed toe. They test me with PCR and the test detects fragments of dead inactive virus from a month ago when my immune system defeated it. I therefore test "positive" for COVID. They give me the vaccine, which promptly kills me from a combination of stroke, heart attack, and multiple organ failure. This would be recorded as a COVID death, and I would be considered "unvaccinated". Cheating like this is a big part of why the COVID death toll is as high as it is. It's fiction.
Re: Covid-19 overtakes 1918 Spanish flu as deadliest disease in American history
#3Ok, now do it by age group:
"Likewise, the mean age of the people who died in 1918 was 28, whereas with Covid, deaths are occurring mainly in the elderly, said Viboud, who works at the National Institutes of Health’s Fogerty International Center. In terms of cumulative years of life lost, the Spanish flu’s impact thus remains greater."
Re: Covid-19 overtakes 1918 Spanish flu as deadliest disease in American history
#4Ok, now do it by age group: "Likewise, the mean age of the people who died in 1918 was 28, whereas with Covid, deaths are occurring mainly in the elderly, said Viboud, who works at the National Institutes of Health’s Fogerty International Center. In terms of cumulative years of life lost, the Spanish flu’s impact thus remains greater."
Does it not count when old people die?
Re: Covid-19 overtakes 1918 Spanish flu as deadliest disease in American history
#5Ok, now do it by age group: "Likewise, the mean age of the people who died in 1918 was 28, whereas with Covid, deaths are occurring mainly in the elderly, said Viboud, who works at the National Institutes of Health’s Fogerty International Center. In terms of cumulative years of life lost, the Spanish flu’s impact thus remains greater."
Does it not count when old people die?
Well, we might say it counts less, because fewer years of life are lost. Sorry to say, but we expect people at or beyond life expectancy to die of something.
Re: Covid-19 overtakes 1918 Spanish flu as deadliest disease in American history
#6Ok, now do it by age group: "Likewise, the mean age of the people who died in 1918 was 28, whereas with Covid, deaths are occurring mainly in the elderly, said Viboud, who works at the National Institutes of Health’s Fogerty International Center. In terms of cumulative years of life lost, the Spanish flu’s impact thus remains greater."
Does it not count when old people die?
When they’re using a non diagnostic test to categorize them, yes. It doesn’t count.
Re: Covid-19 overtakes 1918 Spanish flu as deadliest disease in American history
#7Ok, now do it by age group: "Likewise, the mean age of the people who died in 1918 was 28, whereas with Covid, deaths are occurring mainly in the elderly, said Viboud, who works at the National Institutes of Health’s Fogerty International Center. In terms of cumulative years of life lost, the Spanish flu’s impact thus remains greater."
Does it not count when old people die?
It totally counts, but the goal posts are much easier to move when you organize things in a very specific way.
Re: Covid-19 overtakes 1918 Spanish flu as deadliest disease in American history
#8Ok, now do it by age group: "Likewise, the mean age of the people who died in 1918 was 28, whereas with Covid, deaths are occurring mainly in the elderly, said Viboud, who works at the National Institutes of Health’s Fogerty International Center. In terms of cumulative years of life lost, the Spanish flu’s impact thus remains greater."
Does it not count when old people die?
It depends what you're measuring. Do people live forever, perfectly healthy by default?
Re: Covid-19 overtakes 1918 Spanish flu as deadliest disease in American history
#9No mention in the article of comorbidities. This is happening likely in part because we were the fattest and sickest Americans in history even before COVID-19.
Re: Covid-19 overtakes 1918 Spanish flu as deadliest disease in American history
#10> Comparing events that happened more than a century apart has its perils. For instance, the population of the United States in 1918 was a third of what it is now. So as a percentage of the national population, the Spanish flu deaths still has the lead on Covid-19.
Everything else is done in "Deaths per 100k" isn't it? AFAIK per that metric COVID still runs behind abortions.