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A $30 Raspberry Pi with free Volumio serves the same purpose for me, and I can attach a DAC hat to the top of the Pi for high fidelity audio - but this looks so much better with it's beautiful wood finish.

Where can you buy a $30 Pi?? The 4 is about €120 on Amazon, and I can't find the 3B for less than €60...

The 3A+ can be found for around €30

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I just make do with a Bluetooth to RCA dongle. The upside is it plays any bluetooth audio, not just Spotify. I can even connect it via my phone then control Spotify on my phone through my PC. Also no other apps or software required. It "just works" as far as bluetooth "just works".

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I just make do with a Bluetooth to RCA dongle. The upside is it plays any bluetooth audio, not just Spotify. I can even connect it via my phone then control Spotify on my phone through my PC. Also no other apps or software required. It "just works" as far as bluetooth "just works".

The big problem with just plain Bluetooth to me is that “as far as Bluetooth ‘just works’” is “not very well” in my experience. The usual problems with connects and disconnects are annoying, but I’ve also grown impatient with this notion that we can just use our phone for everything. It drives me bonkers, for example, to have my music rudely interrupted by a text message sound instead of just having a subtle ding come from my pocket while the music continues to come from my stereo. Or that I can’t make a phone call while the music continues. Or to have my phone ring at stereo volume. I just want my music to be separate, I guess, which is totally possible through software, but none of our devices actually seem to have features that allow that. So a dedicated device is ideal, IMO.

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Bluetooth is terrible for music streaming. - Your phone has to be connected the entire time - Quality is flaky - It has to stay in range - You have to manually disconnect/reconnect it every time - You can't take calls while playing music - Only one person/phone can connect to the speaker at a time - It drains battery Having the speaker stream directly from the internet while having your phone (or multiple phones, or…

A single use speaker is not a game changer, it's just Spotify selling you useless gadgets. But if you're interested, I've got a mouse to sell to you that can only work on Word, and a keyboard that can only type the words "game changer". In practice, this is just a terrible speaker that can only ever play Spotify. It's a waste of energy and resources that you will throw away within a year.

You have no idea what you are talking about

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I don't understand why they didn't just use a pi; it would have been cheaper and easier. It already has ethernet and analog audio out.

Raspberry Pi's analog audio out is not very high quality either. I run a HiFiBerry on a Raspberry Pi, and while it's really delicious to use (good sound, good app, good ergonomics), it's just mount, flash and play. It's not something you make from scratch. I'd love to have time to work on something similar. My targets would be different audio-quality wise, but it's a very nice project. Kudos to its maker.

I also imagine if this device is on close to 24/7, reduced electricity costs will more than make up for any cost savings in the end.

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Separating the internet-connected (and therefore low life-expectancy) bits from the analog sound-reproduction (and therefore expensive and high life-expectancy) bits is a great way to build a solid system that can grow and adapt over time. This is a super cool and gratifying way to deliver the internet-connected bit at low cost (at least for those with hardware inclination, and access to means of production). For tho…

I don't really know why they stopped selling chromecast audio (outside of wanting to sell more speakers I guess), but I have (and had) a bunch of those and bookshelf speakers with Lepai T Amps. It worked great.

I've though since replaced most of them with Nest Audios, mostly for the WAF.

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Did this for years. Finally gave up last year. It’s so much work, discovery is a huge pain, listening on all devices is a pain. None of it was worth it. Now I just use Spotify and don’t care. I don’t need the extra work in my life.

all my friends use spotify and everytime i am with them i hear the same music. sure its the music they like, but its the same over and over and over again with no variation. They tell me spotify is great at discovery but i havnt heard it. i listen to djs, radio stations and other internet channels that mix the music i like into new and exciting compositions.

I find many wrongs with Spotify, but this isn't one of them. My Spotify Discover Weekly is usually great, up to 50% great discoveries, and they're completely different in both genres and time periods to friends' lists.

I guess you just have musically eclectically challenged friends.

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Separating the internet-connected (and therefore low life-expectancy) bits from the analog sound-reproduction (and therefore expensive and high life-expectancy) bits is a great way to build a solid system that can grow and adapt over time. This is a super cool and gratifying way to deliver the internet-connected bit at low cost (at least for those with hardware inclination, and access to means of production). For tho…

Thing is, cool as this box is, this outputs analog and has DAC inside it. One of the key reasons that people wouldn't use Alexa input, Muso Cobblestone (these were pretty great in all fairness), etcetera long term is that the internal DACs were not even remotely "audiophile" quality.

If these devices had some sort of digital output so we could attach our own DACs, it would be much nicer.

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Did this for years. Finally gave up last year. It’s so much work, discovery is a huge pain, listening on all devices is a pain. None of it was worth it. Now I just use Spotify and don’t care. I don’t need the extra work in my life.

all my friends use spotify and everytime i am with them i hear the same music. sure its the music they like, but its the same over and over and over again with no variation. They tell me spotify is great at discovery but i havnt heard it. i listen to djs, radio stations and other internet channels that mix the music i like into new and exciting compositions.

Yeah, I used to use Spotify for discovery when the radio function acted like...radio. Now it's just a 30 track playlist on loop generated based on things you have liked. So absolutely fucking pointless for discovery.

I am SCREAMING OUT for a service that was like the old Spotify radio.

Currently just going to gigs again and finding bands through bandcamp the organic way is what I'm doing.

Also, here is a script I wrote to download and extract a Bandcamp download link and import it with the beet CLI music library manager:

https://github.com/radiosilence/dotfiles/blob/master/.zsh.d/...

I then use Navidrome (modern Subsonic replacement) to serve it up:

https://www.navidrome.org/

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