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Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by meehatpa »

intricatedetail wrote: post #306
Ansil849 wrote: post #5

> The added grievance to this is that my drive also included my own personal family photos and my current book on the subject I mean, how many times does this need to come up for people to learn the lesson? If you are storing your data with a third party, and you do not have an iron legal contract with this third party, then that third party can and will do whatever it wants with your data, including locking you out…

If you rent a flat, can landlord take your belongings because he thinks you have drugs?

What makes the landlord think you have drugs? Did he come to check the flat when you are not around?

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by harlanji »

Ansil849 wrote: post #318
jms703 wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another reason to not use Google/Facebook or similar identities to login to a service. You lose access to your Google account, you lose access to all those other services.

This is such a crucial point that so many people overlook, even when being cognizant of the risk of storing data on the cloud, somehow SSO integration is many tech-literate users' blind spot.

I had quite the interaction with Twitch about having lost my email domain. I can still stream to the channel but they said “that you believe to be yours”... quite funny because I believe nothing to be mine, but they came out and said that it’s not mine. They acted as though I were upset, and I’m sure many people that they deal with are. But it’s true, these accounts and phone numbers are not ours.

The closest thing to ours is private keys for onion host routing which are addresssed as the public key derived from the private key tailed with dot-onion (https://pubkey.onion). And most software works with Tor our of the box via torify. Tested with self-signed HTTPS and XMPP and others have with email.

Tor may not be anonymous, but identity ownership is a killer use case. 2022 the year of the onion? I can commit to wrapping all my things going forward.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by Dylan16807 »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #291
squarefoot wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being free is not an excuse. If Google can't give a reliable free service, then they should stop offering free services. Thee way they're doing it is way unprofessional.

This is like saying the Red Cross should not be allowed to give free sandwiches to homeless people if they are made of baloney and government cheese. It's unprofessional! Either use premium meats and cheeses and artisanal bread, or don't give them any sandwiches at all.

The ability to fix an account lockout is not 'premium'.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by JanisL »

zamadatix wrote: post #297
zibzab wrote: post #56

This is your daily reminder that nothing in your digital life should EVER entierly depend on any Google services. Im writing this from an android phone. It is not de-googled per se, but uses a replacement for every single Google service (files, books, maps, search, movies, ...). Yes I pay money for those replacements, but God its good to not my life in the hand of a overzealous ML algorithm.

What do you use for maps?

OpenStreetMap can be quite good: https://www.openstreetmap.org

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by shadilay »

snthd wrote: post #25

Could this be related? https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/19/war_thunder_classifie... >Hungary-based game developer Gaijin Entertainment found themselves in a tactically difficult position last week when a user of their combat simulator War Thunder tried to win an online argument by sharing classified documents in the company's game forums. Maybe checksums of that document are circulated to cloud providers for censo…

In that case I believe the document had top secret stamped on it.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by KennyBlanken »

exporectomy wrote: post #327

It's possible he really did violate Google's "Program Policies" which are utterly ridiculous: "If storing or distributing content related to terrorism for an educational, documentary, scientific, or artistic purpose be mindful to provide enough information so viewers understand the context." So a random photo of a ute with the ISIS logo on the side might be a violation if you don't also write some commentary explaini…

You've employed a strawman fallacy; you took a policy which is on its face pretty reasonable:

"be mindful to provide enough information so viewers understand the context"

and hyperbolized it, to put it mildly, into: "you are forced to write some commentary explaining what it's about and assuring everyone that you aren't..."

Context is the opposite of "an explicit statement spelling it all out."

Maybe I post photos of a vacation trip somewhere there was a car with an ISIS logo on it. The information and context they are talking about would be "2020 Vacation photos" for the album title and it being accompanied by pictures of sunsets, my partner, birbs, etc. that make it plainly obvious it just is a random car in my vacation photos.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by noisy_boy »

tyingq wrote: post #43

I'm curious if "has locked my account" means just Google Drive, or if he also lost Gmail, Android functionality, Chrome profiles, Adwords, YouTube, YouTubeTV, purchased movies and tv shows, Fitbit, Nest, sites where he used federated login (DoorDash, Uber, etc). I see, for example, his YouTube channel is up, but it's associated with 'team@armouredarchives.com', and not the personal gmail account he posted in the link…

I have wondered what locked account actually means in context of the mail and its configuration being "active". E.g. I have setup email forwarding in my Gmail so that I always get a copy at another address. When my account is locked, I know I can't connect to Gmail but what happens to the above "workflow"? Does Gmail stop receiving messages / forwarding rules no longer work?

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by silexia »

Gigachad wrote: post #329
exporectomy wrote: post #327

It's possible he really did violate Google's "Program Policies" which are utterly ridiculous: "If storing or distributing content related to terrorism for an educational, documentary, scientific, or artistic purpose be mindful to provide enough information so viewers understand the context." So a random photo of a ute with the ISIS logo on the side might be a violation if you don't also write some commentary explaini…

As if the Google AI is smart enough to understand context anyway. If you are going to use google services, set a calendar reminder to download the takeout dump very frequently. It's pretty easy to do and saves you in these cases.

Google was once my favorite company when it was still run by its founders and genuinely followed the "don't be evil" policy.

Now everything it does has turned into dark patterns. Google's #1 revenue generator Ads (formerly AdWords) now uses dark patterns to trick advertisers into spending more. For example, most of the recommendations make a user's campaign spend more money while not getting results. Many unwary users ignore these recommendations without realizing that Google added a setting that by default is on that automatically implements all of Google's recommendations after 14 days of wait time. These recommendations are implemented without the users consent or even knowledge. Even if a user turns off that setting, the recommendations appear everywhere throughout the interface with enticing "Apply All" buttons that are easily clicked on accidentally.

What a total nightmare of evil Google has become.

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Post by intricatedetail »

JohnHaugeland wrote: post #319
intricatedetail wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where is the due process or do we outsource this to private companies too?

Due process does not apply to companies choosing not to service you.

They cant steal or destroy your property though.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by dude3 »

While not Google Drive, today my Ad words account was suddenly suspended because of non payment. No warning just a suspension. I have a 100% Valid credit card number on my account. I need to submit an appeal and then I get a vague "because of Covid 19" we can't respond even though we know Google has hired a record number of contractors and folks in the US this year. Something isn't right.
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