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Re: Waydroid – Run Android containers on Ubuntu

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Post by fsflover »

marcodiego wrote: post #99
fsflover wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have a look at my first link. FSF did not certify the phone, because they did not receive the units yet. Purism is struggling with delivery due to the supply chain problem. Nevertheless, FSF recommends Librem 5 every year, and they never recommend anything requiring binary blobs. I have no doubt it will be certified (later rather than sooner).

I couldn't find "FSF did not certify the phone, because they did not receive the units yet" in the links you posted. Purism has been tight-lipped about getting ryf certification. These maneuvers around memory and hdmi look more like cheating to me. According to the links I posted, i.MX8 cannot be deblobbed. I stand by what I say: I don't think the librem-5 will ever get ryf-certified.

> I couldn't find "FSF did not certify the phone, because they did not receive the units yet" in the links you posted.

Just below the picture of the phone, first sentence: While we're still waiting to get our hands on one, this device looks promising: https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/v11.

> These maneuvers around memory and hdmi look more like cheating to me.

Why does it matter to you that a secondary CPU which has no access to anything runs proprietary blobs to train the RAM? Do you also care about proprietary firmware of SSDs (and avoid them)?

Re: Waydroid – Run Android containers on Ubuntu

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Post by cunidev »

amenod wrote: post #38
29083011397778 wrote: post #18

One of the major advantages of Waydroid that I've found is that it's lighter than Anbox. I know some here have compute to spare, but it makes a big difference on my Pinephone :) It's still early days for Waydroid, but it's also decidedly a step forwards.

Wait - you can run waydroid, and thus presumably Android apps, on Pinephone? This is huge! How well does it work?

Quite well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG0uAQqeqW4

Here is on a OnePlus 6T running postmarketOS, for comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9qaD5YIPkc

Re: Waydroid – Run Android containers on Ubuntu

#104

Post by ajvs »

tgtweak wrote: post #78
moritonal wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry if this is rude, but this comment reads really strangely. You seem to acknowledge that you really want something, whilst also accept you cannot do it for a lack of time|skill and then seem annoyed that the people who do ask for some kind of payment for their work?

Just looking for the delta between this and anbox free/anbox cloud/genynotion cloud. No quams about paying for it honestly, just inquiring if any of these formerly paid-only (or build it yourself) features are being offered in the open here.

From what I understand this is aimed only at ARM, so there's no emulation. This is therefore targeting Linux phones, but not Linux on desktop (which is usually run on x86).

Re: Waydroid – Run Android containers on Ubuntu

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Post by madushan1000 »

iam-TJ wrote: post #47
puppet-master wrote: post #3

Followed instructions for 21.04 (distro = "hirsute"), greeted with complaint about binder missing. Found some bug report on the web suggesting I must rebuild my kernel to enable binder. Noped out of there. Looks like a nice effort though. Is this some problem specific to 21.04 kernel config?

In Ubuntu kernels the Android modules are named "binder_linux" and "ashmem_linux" so: sudo modprobe binder_linux sudo modprobe ashmem_linux Where $version is the kernel version, for -generic kernels they are in the package "linux-modules-extra-${version}-generic" and for -lowlatency "linux-modules-${version}-lowlatency". On -generic the modules-extra may sometimes not be installed by default.

Also if you have secureboot on,you won't be able to load ashmem because it's not signed by default by ubuntu. That is without signing the module yourself. I have waydroid running in 21.04 without any issues.

Re: Waydroid – Run Android containers on Ubuntu

#106

Post by smallerfish »

fsflover wrote: post #64
dannyw wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The SoC is pretty slow. speaking as a PinePhone owner.

If you think that Pinephone is slow, try a less cluttered OS ( https://sxmo.org ), or consider Librem 5 instead.

...or wait for the fxtec to ship. If I'm going to have a command line on my phone, I want a keyboard.

Re: Waydroid – Run Android containers on Ubuntu

#107

Post by [deleted] »

jcuenod wrote: post #67
1hrow_away1 wrote: post #53

I wish I could setup waydroid on Raspberry Pi so that I can finally use hotstar/primevideo and netflix on my dumb tv. I had bought firestick in past that is now stuck on boot loop for over a year. I have decided not buy these sticks or smart TV where I have little to no control over Software.

Why can't you?

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Re: Waydroid – Run Android containers on Ubuntu

#108

Post by marcodiego »

fsflover wrote: post #101
marcodiego wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I couldn't find "FSF did not certify the phone, because they did not receive the units yet" in the links you posted. Purism has been tight-lipped about getting ryf certification. These maneuvers around memory and hdmi look more like cheating to me. According to the links I posted, i.MX8 cannot be deblobbed. I stand by what I say: I don't think the librem-5 will ever get ryf-certified.

> I couldn't find "FSF did not certify the phone, because they did not receive the units yet" in the links you posted. Just below the picture of the phone, first sentence: While we're still waiting to get our hands on one, this device looks promising : https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/v11 . > These maneuvers around memory and hdmi look more like cheating to me. Why does it matter to you that a secondary CPU which has…

> > I couldn't find "FSF did not certify the phone, because they did not receive the units yet" in the links you posted.

> Just below the picture of the phone, first sentence: While we're still waiting to get our hands on one, this device looks promising: https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/v11.

I'd still argue that it is a bit different from "FSF did not certify the phone, because they did not receive the units yet".

> > These maneuvers around memory and hdmi look more like cheating to me.

> Why does it matter to you that a secondary CPU which has no access to anything runs proprietary blobs to train the RAM? Do you also care about proprietary firmware of SSDs (and avoid them)?

To makes things clear: I'm not opposed to the "secondary processor exception". In this case specifically, the firmware was artificially stored on a ROM chip, and copied from there to "a secondary processor" by the main processor to unlock a feature (train the RAM) to allow the main processor to work properly. This is a bit too much for me. Also, I'm not sure the HDMI initialization runs on a secondary processor.

Also, librem-5 getting ryf-certified would make me very very happy. I really would love to see this happen.

Re: Waydroid – Run Android containers on Ubuntu

#109

Post by Jiejeing »

spansoa wrote: post #85

This could be useful for web development. You could download a bunch of Android browsers and test your site(s) with them, without having to do that on a finicky phone (for those who want to do everything on a desktop PC)

You know you have been able to do that for ages using the official android emulator, right?

Re: Waydroid – Run Android containers on Ubuntu

#110

Post by fsflover »

smallerfish wrote: post #106
fsflover wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you think that Pinephone is slow, try a less cluttered OS ( https://sxmo.org ), or consider Librem 5 instead.

...or wait for the fxtec to ship. If I'm going to have a command line on my phone, I want a keyboard.

> If I'm going to have a command line on my phone, I want a keyboard.

https://pineguild.com/pinephone-keyboard-first-impression-is...

Also, you can connect via ssh and use your computer's keyboard to manage the phone. Or buy a Bluetooth keyboard.

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