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Re: Waydroid – Run Android containers on Ubuntu

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i.MX still needs binary blobs. I think the only ARM SBC today that can run blob-free today is Radxa's Rock pi 4.

> i.MX still needs binary blobs Which ones? Librem 5 runs an FSF-endorsed OS and is recommended by the FSF: https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/v11/ .

AFAIK fsf recommending a distro doesn't says much about the hardware it runs on. With regard to the blobs still required, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28189184

Re: Waydroid – Run Android containers on Ubuntu

#83
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What's different between this and anbox (other than support, focus, etc)? How good is the 3d support, ie: Does it support a modern version of OpenGL ES? Can it process that via host hardware support (a la angle or similar)? Can it do that headlessly without an window server running on the host? Can the video output of the app be easily captured by nvenc or intel/amd equivalent? Is arm translation supported natively o…

I'm sorry if this is rude, but this comment reads really strangely. You seem to acknowledge that you really want something, whilst also accept you cannot do it for a lack of time|skill and then seem annoyed that the people who do ask for some kind of payment for their work?

THis guy wants to run containers of Android games, such as the various Pay to Win Machine Zone games (they are just one example).

I played one of these once (some Final Fantasy thing) and the amount of manipulative social engineering, dopamine triggering sidegames, and manipulation by devs or employed super-players to "mix things up" to try to provoke people to fork over money was appalling.

Thankfully I used almost no money, I paid up for one or two things to see if they would be worth it (they weren't) before I could fully recognize the money extraction treadmill they were trying to get you one.

The games are a fascinating example of hyperinflation too.

Re: Waydroid – Run Android containers on Ubuntu

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What's different between this and anbox (other than support, focus, etc)? How good is the 3d support, ie: Does it support a modern version of OpenGL ES? Can it process that via host hardware support (a la angle or similar)? Can it do that headlessly without an window server running on the host? Can the video output of the app be easily captured by nvenc or intel/amd equivalent? Is arm translation supported natively o…

> What's different between this and anbox I believe Waydroid was originally "anbox-halium"—a rewrite with LXC to get closer to the metal.

Why would anbox need lxc? For Ndk support? How good is it on waydroid?

Re: Waydroid – Run Android containers on Ubuntu

#86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> i.MX still needs binary blobs Which ones? Librem 5 runs an FSF-endorsed OS and is recommended by the FSF: https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/v11/ .

AFAIK fsf recommending a distro doesn't says much about the hardware it runs on. With regard to the blobs still required, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28189184

FSF recommends hardware which runs purely blob-free OSes. Such hardware can still have proprietary components, which can be considered "hardware, not software", i.e., have no access to RAM, CPU or network and do not require updates.

Purism solved the problem with the RAM here: https://puri.sm/posts/librem5-solving-the-first-fsf-ryf-hurd....

Re: Waydroid – Run Android containers on Ubuntu

#87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AFAIK fsf recommending a distro doesn't says much about the hardware it runs on. With regard to the blobs still required, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28189184

FSF recommends hardware which runs purely blob-free OSes. Such hardware can still have proprietary components, which can be considered "hardware, not software", i.e., have no access to RAM, CPU or network and do not require updates. Purism solved the problem with the RAM here: https://puri.sm/posts/librem5-solving-the-first-fsf-ryf-hurd... .

This was posted a long time ago. The phone has been available for a more than a year now and it still is not ryf-certified. I don't think it will ever be.

Re: Waydroid – Run Android containers on Ubuntu

#88
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Has anyone had success getting any of these containers to work with a camera? Recently, my bank discontinued their website based deposit system for checks in favor of their app. I'm reluctant to keep an app with full access to my account on my phone, so a container system like Waydroid or Anbox would be great if I could just emulate the app when I need it. Has anyone else run into this issue and, if so, how have you…

Android is actually pretty secure. If you trust Linux kernel (which I think you do since you trust lxc), then you can trust Android.

Re: Waydroid – Run Android containers on Ubuntu

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FSF recommends hardware which runs purely blob-free OSes. Such hardware can still have proprietary components, which can be considered "hardware, not software", i.e., have no access to RAM, CPU or network and do not require updates. Purism solved the problem with the RAM here: https://puri.sm/posts/librem5-solving-the-first-fsf-ryf-hurd... .

This was posted a long time ago. The phone has been available for a more than a year now and it still is not ryf-certified. I don't think it will ever be.

Have a look at my first link. FSF did not certify the phone, because they did not receive the units yet. Purism is struggling with delivery due to the supply chain problem. Nevertheless, FSF recommends Librem 5 every year, and they never recommend anything requiring binary blobs. I have no doubt it will be certified (later rather than sooner).

Re: Waydroid – Run Android containers on Ubuntu

#90
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What's different between this and anbox (other than support, focus, etc)? How good is the 3d support, ie: Does it support a modern version of OpenGL ES? Can it process that via host hardware support (a la angle or similar)? Can it do that headlessly without an window server running on the host? Can the video output of the app be easily captured by nvenc or intel/amd equivalent? Is arm translation supported natively o…

I'm sorry if this is rude, but this comment reads really strangely. You seem to acknowledge that you really want something, whilst also accept you cannot do it for a lack of time|skill and then seem annoyed that the people who do ask for some kind of payment for their work?

I can understand how he ended up with that kind of accusatory tone. Existing solutions either come with severe compatibility issues(official Emulator, QEMU, etc.), or vaporwares with great demos(Project Astoria) or are really sketchy borderline malwares(rest of it - my presumptions) that does wonders.
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