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Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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Re: Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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Post by jaywalk »

ChemSpider wrote: post #25
jaywalk wrote: post #18

Why is this linked to some random tweet that adds absolutely nothing instead of the article the tweet links to? https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/lithuania-say...

I used the tweet due to the paywall of the Reuters article. Another user below found the best link, the true original source: Here's the official report: https://www.nksc.lt/doc/en/analysis/2021-08-23_5G-CN-analysi... (link updated)

Since when has Reuters employed a paywall? I know they had planned on implementing one earlier this year, but that was indefinitely postponed.

Re: Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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Post by stevehawk »

ChemSpider wrote: post #25
jaywalk wrote: post #18

Why is this linked to some random tweet that adds absolutely nothing instead of the article the tweet links to? https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/lithuania-say...

I used the tweet due to the paywall of the Reuters article. Another user below found the best link, the true original source: Here's the official report: https://www.nksc.lt/doc/en/analysis/2021-08-23_5G-CN-analysi... (link updated)

that link 404'd for me

this should work (note: direct link to pdf)

https://www.nksc.lt/doc/en/analysis/2021-08-23_5G-CN-analysi...

Re: Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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Post by [deleted] »

stevehawk wrote: post #32
ChemSpider wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used the tweet due to the paywall of the Reuters article. Another user below found the best link, the true original source: Here's the official report: https://www.nksc.lt/doc/en/analysis/2021-08-23_5G-CN-analysi... (link updated)

that link 404'd for me this should work (note: direct link to pdf) https://www.nksc.lt/doc/en/analysis/2021-08-23_5G-CN-analysi...

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Re: Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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Post by avodonosov »

wavefunction wrote: post #27
sorenjan wrote: post #19

Free Tibet. I just typed that on my Xiaomi with stock MIUI, using Google Gboard.

I don't think there were allegations that you couldn't type Free Tibet?

What exactly are the allegations then?

"have a built-in ability to detect and censor terms such as "Free Tibet"

Censor by preventing one posting the phrase? Removing the phrase from web pages?

What are the steps to reproduce?

Re: Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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Post by [deleted] »

stevehawk wrote: post #32
ChemSpider wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used the tweet due to the paywall of the Reuters article. Another user below found the best link, the true original source: Here's the official report: https://www.nksc.lt/doc/en/analysis/2021-08-23_5G-CN-analysi... (link updated)

that link 404'd for me this should work (note: direct link to pdf) https://www.nksc.lt/doc/en/analysis/2021-08-23_5G-CN-analysi...

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Re: Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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Post by gpderetta »

amiga-workbench wrote: post #2

I think you would have to be mad to leave the stock ROM running on a Xiaomi phone, IIRC they were caught logging peoples browser history a few years ago. Several models have mainline LineageOS support, I'm running Lineage on my Mix 2S and hope to have years worth of updates going forward. The hardware is really good value as long as you install an non-tainted OS.

I was stupid enough to buy a Xiaomi phone without enough due diligence. Aside from all spying that is going on, the software is abysmal.

The problem with replacing the OS is that I believe most banking apps I use will stop working. Might just need to write this phone off.

Re: Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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Post by hef19898 »

halfstar91 wrote: post #26
amiga-workbench wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Correct, its entirely possible they could be doing more insidious stuff at the firmware level, but dumb keyword checking is almost certainly implemented in userspace. I don't think you can trust any proprietary firmware out there, its just a question of which you trust less than the others.

And based on recent discoveries it sounds like Xiaomi should be trusted less than others.

As stupid as it might sound, I do trust Pixel phones, and an hypothetical iPhone running a different OS, the most of all alternatives. If one want's a smartphone, if not just take a 20+ year old dumb phone. Or BlackBerry.

Re: Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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Post by ChemSpider »

jaywalk wrote: post #31
ChemSpider wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used the tweet due to the paywall of the Reuters article. Another user below found the best link, the true original source: Here's the official report: https://www.nksc.lt/doc/en/analysis/2021-08-23_5G-CN-analysi... (link updated)

Since when has Reuters employed a paywall? I know they had planned on implementing one earlier this year, but that was indefinitely postponed.

Ah, it says "Register for Free". So not really a paywall, my mistake.

Re: Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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Post by mzs »

gowld wrote: post #17

Please don't submit tweets that are just links to news articles. Here's the official report: https://www.nksc.lt/doc/en/analysis/2021-08-23_5G-CN-analysi...

Thanks, there was also this discussion earlier this morning which linked there as well:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28613703

Re: Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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Post by reginold »

echelon wrote: post #28
thebraxton wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There were multiple articles about apple's csm with discussions.

And we should stop talking about it? That's what Apple and the intelligence orgs want.

I'm totally up for talking about it, what more can we talk about tho? I'm switching vendors and advocating for open sw/hw. Open to more threads!
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