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Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by II2II »

js2 wrote: post #88
miah_ wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On MacOS if you remap your capslock to control there is a race condition on the login screen. If you use the control/capslock key to wake up your laptop and manage to time it right, you can enable capslock but not have a way to disable it (unless you remapped another key to capslock (why?)).

Funny, I just had a version of this happen to me this morning on iPad OS using a folio keyboard. I had just upgraded to iPadOS 15 and the caps-lock-as-control setting reverted to the default. I went into settings and changed it back, but I did so with caps lock accidentially enabled. This left the folio keyboard stuck in caps lock. I had to go back into settings, set caps lock back to caps lock, press the caps lock k…

> BTW, why does caps lock even still exist?

It was useful on some old machines that tended to prefer uppercase input. On typewriters, the shift lock key (which is slightly different) tended to be used when people wanted to add emphasis to a word or phrase.

As for modern computers, it is less useful. When one of the keyswitches on my keyboard failed, I replaced it with the keyswitch from the capslock since I figured it was the one key I was guaranteed to never use.

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by johnsoft »

not1ofU wrote: post #102
johnsoft wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I've had this happen too. My fix is win+l to logout, then log back in.

Doesn't Win+L lock the screen?

You're right, I used the word "logout" imprecisely. I meant "lock".

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by Kuraj »

SSLy wrote: post #172
Kuraj wrote: post #49

I don't know how many Polish people who owned a Radeon card in the 2000s are there on HN but I'm sure they can all relate :-) as the card software would overwrite the key combination used to type the letter "ć" and open the Catalyst Control Center instead. Argh!

altgr-z still opens nvidia's bar instead of, you know, just typing ż. In 2021, not 2004.

Wait you mean the GeForce Experience overlay? I must have reassigned that right after installation so I didn't remember. But at least this one warrants having a hotkey in the first place!

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by vdqtp3 »

evanelias wrote: post #130
jandrese wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So the concept is you would click through to every post to read it? I have to admit I never twigged on this, because it seems insane.

No, again, it was not meant to be a traditional comment section. It was not a discussion thread for casual readers, especially via the blog view. If you wanted a normal comment system, you could use Disqus embeds, or just use a traditional blogging software. The reblog system was a way for Tumblr users to publicly respond to things, and allow that response to be visible to the responder's followers. The original post…

> if you only ever experienced Tumblr on blog views and without an account, you literally never saw the core functionality that made Tumblr popular.

that explains quite a lot

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by Nextgrid »

Rd6n6 wrote: post #99
dbatten wrote: post #33

True story: One day, Windows wouldn't let me type the letter p. I was trying to log back in from the Windows lock screen. Typed my password, got it wrong. Typed it again, got it wrong. Eventually got locked out of my account, despite being extremely careful to type my password correctly. Went to IT and had them unlock my account... Went back to my PC and tried to log in again. Typed my password very carefully, letter…

Button presses are often handled by state machines at a driver level so that a single “press” only registers as a single press. Otherwise, it will register as a lot of presses because the physical switches bounce on contact. They call this debouncing. Probably, a drivers state machine did not transition out

Pretty sure this would be done at the hardware level, as otherwise this behavior would differ between the BIOS, Windows, Linux & Mac. As far as I know no such debouncing code exists in operating systems for HID keyboards.

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by Nextgrid »

black_puppydog wrote: post #108

I feel like in a thread like this, Asana deserves a shout-out for utterly fucking up the UX in any firefox version I've tried, up to and including nightly. Typing in the various text input fields has ~1s of lag. It's a TEXT FIELD for fuck's sake!

Since a few years ago ruining text fields seems to be a rite of passage for front-end developers. I echo the Asana issue and I also noticed Slab (some kind of Notion alternative) both managed to make text lag.

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by klyrs »

js2 wrote: post #88
miah_ wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On MacOS if you remap your capslock to control there is a race condition on the login screen. If you use the control/capslock key to wake up your laptop and manage to time it right, you can enable capslock but not have a way to disable it (unless you remapped another key to capslock (why?)).

Funny, I just had a version of this happen to me this morning on iPad OS using a folio keyboard. I had just upgraded to iPadOS 15 and the caps-lock-as-control setting reverted to the default. I went into settings and changed it back, but I did so with caps lock accidentially enabled. This left the folio keyboard stuck in caps lock. I had to go back into settings, set caps lock back to caps lock, press the caps lock k…

Capslock exists to make typing in allcaps easy. I use it most when I'm in a C project with lots of macros. I use it about as often as I use ten-key -- just enough to justify its existence, not enough to find alternatives in every os/editor/browser/etc that I use.

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by Nextgrid »

black_puppydog wrote: post #179
seph-reed wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I could do this with any language. It's just bad code.

just seems to happen more often in JS... :|

If you were writing pure JS you'd probably need to intentionally delay text entry with setTimeout/etc to achieve this effect - I don't think you can achieve this outcome by accident.

The problem is that the front-end ecosystem encourages pulling in megabytes of third-party crap for every little thing (including poorly reinventing existing browser functionality) and the result is that some interaction between all that mess causes an entire page redraw upon every keystroke or similar.

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by not1ofU »

formerly_proven wrote: post #54
dbatten wrote: post #33

True story: One day, Windows wouldn't let me type the letter p. I was trying to log back in from the Windows lock screen. Typed my password, got it wrong. Typed it again, got it wrong. Eventually got locked out of my account, despite being extremely careful to type my password correctly. Went to IT and had them unlock my account... Went back to my PC and tried to log in again. Typed my password very carefully, letter…

Windows 10 has this funny bug where sometimes for some reason your individual windows don't get focus any more. You can click at their title bar, and they'll be drawn as-if they have focus (darker shadow and foreground titlebar), but no window actually accepts or processes any user input (while updating normally in the background, and also redrawing). The only way I know how to fix this is to go into the Ctrl+Alt+Del…

A couple of things to try that may help:

Alt+Tab (switch between open programs) - might help change the focus

Windows 10 has an advanced version of ^ as I understand, which uses the key combo: Win + Tab. The cycle of these commands can be reversed by adding "shift" to the mix (in case of many open programs / windows and you dont want to cycle through all of them)

Win+x has different, but equally useful menus for win 8 / win 10 - I was overjoyed when i first discovered this, as it retired many many other shortcuts I used over the years. (to get to device manager / control panel / event viewer)

and if all else fails: Alt+F4 - closes active (focused) program / window. If no programs or windows are in focus, then it will bring up the "shut down" dialog box, which allows for reboot / signout / shutdown / Switch user / sleep and hibernation if its enabled.

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by Nextgrid »

ryandrake wrote: post #169
_moof wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like the modern web is an exercise in adversarial UX. I am constantly fighting with it to get it to stop doing - and pardon my Anglo-Saxon here but I think it's warranted - obnoxious bullshit. Hotkeys, pop-ups (er, sorry, modals ), text fields with paste disabled, login walls and other dark patterns... just let me use your website! I get why the hotkey scourge came about, because folks are trying to build apps…

The infuriating part of this is, we keep complaining about all this horrible web UX over and over, on a web forum that a large number of web developers read daily. There are probably web developers browsing this thread right now, maybe reading this very comment, who are actively doing this to the web. Hey! Web Developer Reading This: PLEASE STOP making the web terrible. The very people who can fix this are reading HN…

> Put away the Javascript. Forget those modal pop-ups and newsletter sign-ups.

This would make a lot of careers obsolete though (and even entire companies - I'm sure there are "newsletter popup as a service" startups). It's hard to make someone understand something when their paycheck depends on not understanding it.

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