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Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by ayewo »

Rd6n6 wrote: post #112
dbatten wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This doesn't seem to explain how it would happen after plugging in a new keyboard, or trying to use the on-screen keyboard, though...

Same generic keyboard debouncing in use in all 3 instances on the windows end? I know windows drivers debounce mouse clicks because I had a really old mouse that would double and triple click by accident on Linux but not in windows. I might be wrong, but changing the device might not affect it if the different devices are handled by shared runtime code

Sounds like a reasonable explanation for physical keyboards—if the new keyboard used by the OP was identical to the keyboard on their machine, I can see how Windows might reuse the same device driver instance since it has already been loaded into memory.

But what about the on-screen keyboard? Do on-screen key presses get routed through the keyboard device driver too?

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by macintux »

athorax wrote: post #137
subpixel wrote: post #129

My personal pet peeve is what every Squarespace-powered site on the internet (many millions!) does to the esc key. Example: https://www.folioeast.com/ I never realized how often I use the esc key until I started getting routed to Squarespace logins all over the place.

Oh. My. God. I have been wondering why when I come back to my PC after it being asleep I've been on random squarespace login pages. I usually tap esc a couple of times to wake up my computer.

I learned years ago to use as “safe” a key as possible to wake up my computer, so I settled on Control.

Wish I could remember what led me to that decision.

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by vvatermelone »

dbatten wrote: post #33

True story: One day, Windows wouldn't let me type the letter p. I was trying to log back in from the Windows lock screen. Typed my password, got it wrong. Typed it again, got it wrong. Eventually got locked out of my account, despite being extremely careful to type my password correctly. Went to IT and had them unlock my account... Went back to my PC and tried to log in again. Typed my password very carefully, letter…

I've been having bizarrely similar issues with my XPS lately, except that none of the keys work except the i key, even with the on-screen keyboard. Only happens once in a blue moon, but as in your case, requires a hard reset.

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by asdff »

efdee wrote: post #146

A long, long time ago, I "broke" my dad's MS Works word processor. The D key just stopped working. Turns out that, during my fiddling around, I had created a macro that did nothing and had 'D' as a hotkey. It was the first time ever that I had "broken the computer".

gui needs a log just like the cli and it should have happened 30 years ago

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by recursive »

js2 wrote: post #88
miah_ wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On MacOS if you remap your capslock to control there is a race condition on the login screen. If you use the control/capslock key to wake up your laptop and manage to time it right, you can enable capslock but not have a way to disable it (unless you remapped another key to capslock (why?)).

Funny, I just had a version of this happen to me this morning on iPad OS using a folio keyboard. I had just upgraded to iPadOS 15 and the caps-lock-as-control setting reverted to the default. I went into settings and changed it back, but I did so with caps lock accidentially enabled. This left the folio keyboard stuck in caps lock. I had to go back into settings, set caps lock back to caps lock, press the caps lock k…

Sometimes I use caps lock for its intended purpose. Probably not nearly enough to justify its existence as a physical key that takes up space, but at least a little.

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by recursive »

macintux wrote: post #162
athorax wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh. My. God. I have been wondering why when I come back to my PC after it being asleep I've been on random squarespace login pages. I usually tap esc a couple of times to wake up my computer.

I learned years ago to use as “safe” a key as possible to wake up my computer, so I settled on Control. Wish I could remember what led me to that decision.

I do the same thing. It's right on the corner. And alt frequently activates a menu.

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by mst »

mrguyorama wrote: post #125
mst wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the case of twitter, because it's documented along with all of the other shortcuts in the documentation: https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/how-to-tweet They have rather more docs than you'd expect, the big problem seems to be that nobody expects them to have useful documentation so it often doesn't occur to us to look - hence why I figured it was worth posting it for people who didn't know about it yet.

An interesting disconnect to me is that I thought you were referring to generic websites, not ones that you can actually add/do stuff in. Contrast a site like "Youtube" where you usually just passively consumer (and indeed it DOES have a shortcut list viewed by typing '?') and something like jira where users are expected to be somewhat familiar and doing lots of things

For youtube, there's a menu link that tells you and also documentation here: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7631406?hl=en-GB

Like I say, the big problem here is 'realising that googling "$site keyboard shortcuts" actually has a point in the first place' - hence why I tell people about '?' any time I think it might be useful :D

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by ryandrake »

_moof wrote: post #150
smcl wrote: post #22

These hotkeys in websites are an utter curse. So many times I've started typing in Jira, then something weird happened that caused my keystrokes to be interpreted by the page instead of entered into a comment box ... then the ticket gets reopened, unassigned, etc.

I feel like the modern web is an exercise in adversarial UX. I am constantly fighting with it to get it to stop doing - and pardon my Anglo-Saxon here but I think it's warranted - obnoxious bullshit. Hotkeys, pop-ups (er, sorry, modals ), text fields with paste disabled, login walls and other dark patterns... just let me use your website! I get why the hotkey scourge came about, because folks are trying to build apps…

The infuriating part of this is, we keep complaining about all this horrible web UX over and over, on a web forum that a large number of web developers read daily. There are probably web developers browsing this thread right now, maybe reading this very comment, who are actively doing this to the web. Hey! Web Developer Reading This:

    PLEASE STOP making the web terrible.
The very people who can fix this are reading HN. Just stop. Put the keyboard down. Put away the Javascript. Forget those modal pop-ups and newsletter sign-ups. Now do some meditation. Think about what you are doing to the user's experience when you start typing again. I'm really talking to you, mister web developer reading this, who has a JIRA ticket up next in the queue asking you to add a dark pattern to a web site. Please stop. Articulate to your manager why this is horrible, and don't do it. All it takes is people (us, here on HN) to stop doing these things, and things will slowly start getting better.

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

#170

Post by Toutouxc »

js2 wrote: post #88
miah_ wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On MacOS if you remap your capslock to control there is a race condition on the login screen. If you use the control/capslock key to wake up your laptop and manage to time it right, you can enable capslock but not have a way to disable it (unless you remapped another key to capslock (why?)).

Funny, I just had a version of this happen to me this morning on iPad OS using a folio keyboard. I had just upgraded to iPadOS 15 and the caps-lock-as-control setting reverted to the default. I went into settings and changed it back, but I did so with caps lock accidentially enabled. This left the folio keyboard stuck in caps lock. I had to go back into settings, set caps lock back to caps lock, press the caps lock k…

> BTW, why does caps lock even still exist?

Dunno, but in my country we use a QWERTZ layout where you can't write the letters Ě, Š, Č, Ř, Ž, Ý Á, Í, É without caps lock, because with Shift those keys produce 2, 3, 4, ..., 0

So that's why I need it. :)

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