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The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Post by scohesc »

olah_1 wrote: post #454
etbusch wrote: post #316

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Two things: They are replaceable when the external ports (USB-C or otherwise) wear out without the need for soldering or internal board replacement. The design of the modules is open source, meaning that anyone can design a module that fits their needs.

how does a port “wear out”? i’ve never heard of that

This was something that was more prominent during the Micro-USB era. The little metal "tabs" on the male end of microUSB connectors would start to wear out after a thousand+ plug/unplugs resulting in a loose connection that wasn't reliable.

With USB-C, the connector was designed consideration of a bunch of factors, one of which I would assume is lifespan of the end connectors - USB-c has thicker, more resilient plastic hooks built into the inside of the male plug and stronger mating latches in the female end of the connector.

https://www.quora.com/How-do-USB-cables-particularly-USB-C-s...

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Post by danso »

bambax wrote: post #462
yobert wrote: post #448

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If you read a little lower in the article he mentions it being a reward mechanism for stopping smoking. So each year he doesn't smoke, he rewards himself with a new laptop. Good strategy!

Yeah, this is rationalizing. You don't need to reward yourself every year for something you do once. You quit smoking, you get a reward, end of story. Also, and that's where we differ (and kind of my point): setting up a new computer isn't a reward for me, it's a punishment.

I think for some folks, quitting smoking isn’t a simple one-time event, but a lifelong ongoing challenge

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Post by superdisk »

bambax wrote: post #462
yobert wrote: post #448

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If you read a little lower in the article he mentions it being a reward mechanism for stopping smoking. So each year he doesn't smoke, he rewards himself with a new laptop. Good strategy!

Yeah, this is rationalizing. You don't need to reward yourself every year for something you do once. You quit smoking, you get a reward, end of story. Also, and that's where we differ (and kind of my point): setting up a new computer isn't a reward for me, it's a punishment.

If it's stupid but it works, it's not stupid.

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Post by philjohn »

fsflover wrote: post #284
smoldesu wrote: post #184

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As much as I love speculating about backdoors and NSA wiretapping, I seriously doubt these MEs are malicious. At this point, managing a modern x86 is tough work, especially if you want to run virtualization, complex threading and maintain high efficiency. It makes total sense that there are mandatory supervisor chips at this point, and without any evidence that these chips are "phoning home," I simply have to assume…

It does not even matter if they are actively malicious. They are closed, non-removable, with proven vulnerabilities (which not only CIA can use). What else do you need?

How do you know that the closed CPU microcode that all modern AMD and Intel CPU's use don't have backdoors and vulnerabilities?

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Post by reginold »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #107

The Framework is definitely on my radar for next laptop. I kinda want to wait and see how it pans out in the long-term, though. I'll be eagerly awaiting for the Gen 2 version of the laptop, or the "Framework Laptop - 1 year later" reviews. For the moment, my Dell XPS 13 laptop from 2015 is still going strong, and I'd hate to ditch a brand/model that's been working reliably for me for six years for new-shiny thing fro…

If you're in a position to grin and bear it, pushing your purchase earlier may ensure this fledgling company's success.

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Post by t-writescode »

fsflover wrote: post #284
smoldesu wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as I love speculating about backdoors and NSA wiretapping, I seriously doubt these MEs are malicious. At this point, managing a modern x86 is tough work, especially if you want to run virtualization, complex threading and maintain high efficiency. It makes total sense that there are mandatory supervisor chips at this point, and without any evidence that these chips are "phoning home," I simply have to assume…

It does not even matter if they are actively malicious. They are closed, non-removable, with proven vulnerabilities (which not only CIA can use). What else do you need?

How is that different from the Intel ones? Can they not be turned back on or injected again with a new ME?
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