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The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Post by uxcolumbo »

brightball wrote: post #166

> I really miss my Thinkpad Trackpoint This is one of those comments I will never understand. Every single time I have tried to use one of those things the only thought that goes through my mind is, "This is the dumbest mouse interface I have ever seen. Why would anyone ever use this thing?" And then I see comments like this. I don't get it. The ergonomics of those little nubs are awful .

It has a learning curve - for sure.

But once you've got used to it in a couple of days, it's way more efficient than a trackpad for type and pointing activities. I don't have to move my arm compared to when using a trackpad.

This is an interesting video:

IBM introduces "Pointing Stick" (TrackPoint) (1990)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Ss6F1qIHU

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Post by sudosysgen »

exolymph wrote: post #360
dickfickling wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As the other comments have noted, Cory addresses this further down in the linked post. He further expanded on this in the post he wrote when he quit smoking[0]: > That was my homework: go away and think of an immediate reason not to smoke. When I came back, I had my answer ready: “I spend two laptops per year on smokes. That money goes directly to the dirtiest companies on Earth, the literal inventors of the science-…

I don't care enough but I want someone to fact-check him on the environmental impact of a MacBook worth of cigarettes versus the MacBook itself. It'd be funny if the MacBook is ultimately worse for Nature.

If he's giving his old one to someone else that presumably needs it, I don't see why it would be a negative.

The cigarettes are probably better for Nature since you'll live a shorter life.

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Post by LeonenTheDK »

technofiend wrote: post #98
the_other wrote: post #44

But why the dongles? The go against all the principles of the rest of the design. They’re proprietary, consumable, and they waste space in the chasis. They limit what you can do with the USB-C they pass through too.

Only a guess but they also act as a sacrificial device in place of the motherboard's USB-C connector. I've read here on HN that Macbook USB-C adapters regularly fail.

Louis Rossmann recently reviewed the Framework laptop and basically said the exact same thing, about them taking a lot of the stress off the soldered USB-C portion and transferring it to the chassis instead.

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Post by hinkley »

cogman10 wrote: post #37
tombert wrote: post #25

It feels like for years we were constantly told by these corporations "it's impossible to have slim, tiny laptops and make them customizable", and I guess at some level I believed that, and just accepted that laptops with upgradable components were a thing of the past. After seeing the framework, I'm more than a little annoyed that I fell for this. They proved you can have a slim, clean laptop that's somewhat modular…

We've been told for years that "slim and tiny is what you really want!" No, I don't want slim and tiny, I want to be able to replace and upgrade parts. I want a battery I can swap out or RAM I can replace. The problem is that being able to swap parts extends service life of machines. Can't have that when they want you to just buy a new one ever 3 years.

Slim and tiny is what I wanted when thinkpads were smaller and lighter than average.

Once we hit five pounds and I had a bag that stopped caring about smaller laptops? Well that was about the time that desktops died and I could have used a workstation class laptop with some more flexibility.

But I opted for simple and put my energy somewhere else instead. Seems a lot of people did.

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Post by 6gvONxR4sf7o »

tombert wrote: post #25

It feels like for years we were constantly told by these corporations "it's impossible to have slim, tiny laptops and make them customizable", and I guess at some level I believed that, and just accepted that laptops with upgradable components were a thing of the past. After seeing the framework, I'm more than a little annoyed that I fell for this. They proved you can have a slim, clean laptop that's somewhat modular…

It seems more likely that tech has advanced enough for this, rather than there being some greedy phenomenon where it just so happened that nobody thought to do better before framework.
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