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Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by npteljes »

johnsoft wrote: post #91
mrguyorama wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except now how am I supposed to know '?' brings up this display?

The same way you know you can run any command with `--help`. Most commands anyway. I'm looking at you, netcat

>The same way you know you can run any command with `--help`.

Not really though. Some command in the distant past once told me that I need to type /? to use the correct parameters. And then another one told me that /? is invalid, I need to type --help for help. And thus, I was aware. Contrast this with youtube, which I use for 10+ years now, where I have 500+ videos sorted into playlists, and I even know some shortcuts - discovered mostly by accident - and never once saw the "?" help page, until I read this hacker news thread.

Anecdote, I know.

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by SSLy »

Kuraj wrote: post #49

I don't know how many Polish people who owned a Radeon card in the 2000s are there on HN but I'm sure they can all relate :-) as the card software would overwrite the key combination used to type the letter "ć" and open the Catalyst Control Center instead. Argh!

altgr-z still opens nvidia's bar instead of, you know, just typing ż. They're retards https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20040329-00/?p=40...

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by SSLy »

black_puppydog wrote: post #108

I feel like in a thread like this, Asana deserves a shout-out for utterly fucking up the UX in any firefox version I've tried, up to and including nightly. Typing in the various text input fields has ~1s of lag. It's a TEXT FIELD for fuck's sake!

Facebook's fake text boxen do the same (if they let me type in at all…)

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by dang »

optimiz3 wrote: post #115

Quoted post unavailable.

"Eschew flamebait. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents."

"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by tpxl »

sbierwagen wrote: post #124
tokamak-teapot wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lots of old documents with rules about writing ridiculously large parts of them in ALL CAPS. For no reason at all, that I can determine.

Notepad++ has a toolbar option that will uppercase all the currently selected text. Write a paragraph normally and then uppercase it with one click.

Lots of tools have this. IntelliJ has it mapped to ctrl shift U by default I think.

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by efdee »

A long, long time ago, I "broke" my dad's MS Works word processor. The D key just stopped working. Turns out that, during my fiddling around, I had created a macro that did nothing and had 'D' as a hotkey. It was the first time ever that I had "broken the computer".

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by t-writescode »

dbatten wrote: post #33

True story: One day, Windows wouldn't let me type the letter p. I was trying to log back in from the Windows lock screen. Typed my password, got it wrong. Typed it again, got it wrong. Eventually got locked out of my account, despite being extremely careful to type my password correctly. Went to IT and had them unlock my account... Went back to my PC and tried to log in again. Typed my password very carefully, letter…

At a job I worked at, we had servers that were given several internal IP addresses to map to external IP addresses.

One day, one machine just ... stopped having a bunch of those IP addresses. They were just gone.

We didn't understand, troubleshot as much as we could, and eventually just gave up and went "forget it, just try restarting the machine."

It worked.

It's amazing what weird states a computer can get into that "did you try turning it off and on again?" is a very real and legitimate and helpful piece of advice.

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by Sanguinaire »

tokamak-teapot wrote: post #101
js2 wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny, I just had a version of this happen to me this morning on iPad OS using a folio keyboard. I had just upgraded to iPadOS 15 and the caps-lock-as-control setting reverted to the default. I went into settings and changed it back, but I did so with caps lock accidentially enabled. This left the folio keyboard stuck in caps lock. I had to go back into settings, set caps lock back to caps lock, press the caps lock k…

Lots of old documents with rules about writing ridiculously large parts of them in ALL CAPS. For no reason at all, that I can determine.

All-caps mode exists as a safe space for FORTRAN programmers.

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by civilized »

Intermernet wrote: post #34
dbatten wrote: post #33

True story: One day, Windows wouldn't let me type the letter p. I was trying to log back in from the Windows lock screen. Typed my password, got it wrong. Typed it again, got it wrong. Eventually got locked out of my account, despite being extremely careful to type my password correctly. Went to IT and had them unlock my account... Went back to my PC and tried to log in again. Typed my password very carefully, letter…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOP_(code)

Getting a "Who's on First" vibe, but I can't quite make it into a real joke...

- "I can't get a p, no matter what I do there's no p at all!"

- "No p?"

- "Nope!"

- "Well if it's a no-op of course there's no p!"

- "It's not a no-op, I'm telling you there's no p!"

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Post by _moof »

smcl wrote: post #22

These hotkeys in websites are an utter curse. So many times I've started typing in Jira, then something weird happened that caused my keystrokes to be interpreted by the page instead of entered into a comment box ... then the ticket gets reopened, unassigned, etc.

I feel like the modern web is an exercise in adversarial UX. I am constantly fighting with it to get it to stop doing - and pardon my Anglo-Saxon here but I think it's warranted - obnoxious bullshit. Hotkeys, pop-ups (er, sorry, modals), text fields with paste disabled, login walls and other dark patterns... just let me use your website!

I get why the hotkey scourge came about, because folks are trying to build apps on a platform that isn't actually a platform. Browsers provide some but not all of the facilities of a real operating system (I'm using "operating system" here in the larger sense of "an integrated software platform that includes a complete toolbox a la Windows, macOS, etc."), so everyone's forced to reinvent square wheels. But understanding it doesn't make the experience as a user any less painful. And although I very much prefer to be able to work from the keyboard whenever possible, hotkeys as they exist on the web today ain't it. They're inconsistent, undiscoverable, and aren't integrated with fundamental UX principles like "don't destroy the user's work" and "let the user recover from mistakes."

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