The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

Post by ChuckNorris89 » Tue, Sep 21, 2021, 6:42 PM UTC

hyperpallium2 wrote: post #235

tombert wrote: post #25

It feels like for years we were constantly told by these corporations "it's impossible to have slim, tiny laptops and make them customizable", and I guess at some level I believed that, and just accepted that laptops with upgradable components were a thing of the past. After seeing the framework, I'm more than a little annoyed that I fell for this. They proved you can have a slim, clean laptop that's somewhat modular…

According to Clayton Christensen, there's a cycle between integrated and modular, as consumer perferences change. At first performance is inadequate, but once it is good enough, people base their buying decisions on other things like customization. e.g. By this theory, android would become more popular than iphone. EDIT yes, which happened, favouring the theory; despite iphone still leading performance, due to integr…

Post by 0des » Tue, Sep 21, 2021, 6:43 PM UTC

smoldesu wrote: post #184

fsflover wrote: post #161

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You cannot neutralize and disable the PSP spying module in AMD processors, while in Intel ones you can do that with ME: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine#Assert... .

As much as I love speculating about backdoors and NSA wiretapping, I seriously doubt these MEs are malicious. At this point, managing a modern x86 is tough work, especially if you want to run virtualization, complex threading and maintain high efficiency. It makes total sense that there are mandatory supervisor chips at this point, and without any evidence that these chips are "phoning home," I simply have to assume…

Post by kowlo » Tue, Sep 21, 2021, 6:43 PM UTC

mschuster91 wrote: post #230

slabity wrote: post #187

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Another quote from Linus that's relevant: "Imagine being an engineer at a company at Apple, and it being your job to design the mechanism that makes it so that machine cannot start up unless the chassis is fully sealed. Apple spent actual fucking money making sure that product would not work unless it is in the exact chassis they shipped it in." That goes beyond not caring.

Where is that quote from? I wasn't able to find it via Google. Anyway, a computer that refuses to turn on after been tampered with does have its uses, particularly if your threat model is government secret services.

Post by aeyes » Tue, Sep 21, 2021, 6:43 PM UTC

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Sep 21, 2021, 6:43 PM UTC

mschuster91 wrote: post #230

slabity wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another quote from Linus that's relevant: "Imagine being an engineer at a company at Apple, and it being your job to design the mechanism that makes it so that machine cannot start up unless the chassis is fully sealed. Apple spent actual fucking money making sure that product would not work unless it is in the exact chassis they shipped it in." That goes beyond not caring.

Where is that quote from? I wasn't able to find it via Google. Anyway, a computer that refuses to turn on after been tampered with does have its uses, particularly if your threat model is government secret services.