Was this magazine really 500 pages thick?
I think 1980-1983 was the peak for Byte
Byte Magazine Volume 07 Number 08 – Logo (1982)
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Re: Byte Magazine Volume 07 Number 08 – Logo (1982)
#72For all the Logo fans out here, here are some more Logo resources: 1. IBM PC Logo executable and manual (1983): https://winworldpc.com/product/ibm-logo/100 2. Atari Logo executable and manuals (1983): https://atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Logo 3. JSLogo (2009-2021): https://www.calormen.com/jslogo/ 4. Logo Exchange (1982-1999): https://el.media.mit.edu/logo-foundation/resources/nlx/ 5. Matrix bridge to Libera Chat…
also turtleSpaces, a modern web- and app-based 3D Logo https://turtlespaces.org
Re: Byte Magazine Volume 07 Number 08 – Logo (1982)
#73For all the Logo fans out here, here are some more Logo resources: 1. IBM PC Logo executable and manual (1983): https://winworldpc.com/product/ibm-logo/100 2. Atari Logo executable and manuals (1983): https://atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Logo 3. JSLogo (2009-2021): https://www.calormen.com/jslogo/ 4. Logo Exchange (1982-1999): https://el.media.mit.edu/logo-foundation/resources/nlx/ 5. Matrix bridge to Libera Chat…
At school, we used a Logo implementation that had a shape editor that you could jump into with a keyboard combination. You could edit 32×32(?) pixel images, and it came pre-populated with the default turtle, some animation phases of a stick figure, a house, heads, etc. IIRC, SHAPE changed the turtle image to the given shape, and you could control 8-ish independent turtles. It ran on MS-DOS systems. Does anyone know which one it might be?
Re: Byte Magazine Volume 07 Number 08 – Logo (1982)
#74For all the Logo fans out here, here are some more Logo resources: 1. IBM PC Logo executable and manual (1983): https://winworldpc.com/product/ibm-logo/100 2. Atari Logo executable and manuals (1983): https://atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Logo 3. JSLogo (2009-2021): https://www.calormen.com/jslogo/ 4. Logo Exchange (1982-1999): https://el.media.mit.edu/logo-foundation/resources/nlx/ 5. Matrix bridge to Libera Chat…
FMS Logo released version 8.2 yesterday
https://sourceforge.net/projects/fmslogo/
Logo was also the programming language I used at school. Funnily they translated it to German and because the German translation for turtle (Schildkröte) spells too long they translated it to Igel (hedgehog). I remember the fun programming fractals using turtle graphics
Re: Byte Magazine Volume 07 Number 08 – Logo (1982)
#75From the mid eighties onward, BYTE was instrumental in steering me towards Computer Science with inspirational articles by people like Dick Pountain and Steven Ciarcia (and, to a much lesser degree, Pournelle, whose articles seemingly mainly consisted of him breaking stuff and being astounded by tech supporters who did not know Who He Was). It filled for a while, together with Dr. Dobb's Journal, a space between the…
also the C users journal.
Re: Byte Magazine Volume 07 Number 08 – Logo (1982)
#76A story about Logo: Thirty years ago, driven by poverty and lack of opportunities, me and my family illegally crossed the border from Tijuana into San Diego. We had some friends in Pasadena who received us in a spare bedroom while we settled. Since I was eleven years old, I was enrolled in the sixth grade of the local elementary school. The teacher (Ms Castro) was incredibly gracious with this tiny Mexican who didn't…
"I always wondered what would've happened if..."
Me too. But I'm trying to quit.
Re: Byte Magazine Volume 07 Number 08 – Logo (1982)
#77I have a copy of that issue and what stands out about it is the indifference that the regular contributors show to Logo. Steve Ciarcia for instance, has an article about a graphics controller from Texas Instruments which has way too many sprites for logo (just need one for the turtle.) He codes with a soldering iron, struggles with assembly language, probably doesn't know BASIC and could care less about Logo.
Oh wow. I built that circuit, on perfboard, with wire-wrap, using parts from a TI-99/4A, some summer in the late eighties. I had intended to drive it from the joystick ports of an Atari 800XL. I struggled to get it working, went back to school, and it may still be sitting in a box at my parent's house. If I could find it it would be a hoot to bring up with a modern microcontroller.
Re: Byte Magazine Volume 07 Number 08 – Logo (1982)
#78The book "Turtles, Termites, and Traffic Jams -- Explorations in massively parallel microworlds" [0] describes StarLogo, which was a massively parallel version of Logo. In it you could create, say, 1000 turtles in the center of the screen, and the puzzle was, when you told them all "forward 100", what shape would it draw? The answer was a circle, since they all start with a random heading.
This was initially implemented on a Connection Machine. Very interesting book, highly recommended.
[0] https://www.amazon.com/Turtles-Termites-Traffic-Jams-Explora...
Re: Byte Magazine Volume 07 Number 08 – Logo (1982)
#79500+ pages... Colossal !
Of which more than half (of what I've skimmed through, at least) are ads. Makes FB at 1/4 ad content seem even reasonable.
yeah, although sibling commenters are complaining about the type of adverts seen on today's platforms being different; namely that byte and computer shopper had ads that were 'useful' or 'interesting' by some definition, compared to youtube or facebook.
i think this often reflects more on the viewer, and the type of content they access, than on the platform. depending on the videos i watch, along with some judicious approval or disapproval via the thumbs up/down buttons presented and skipping boring or irrelevant ads and vice-versa, i now am presented with much more appropriate and interesting or informative adverts for products and services i wouldn't have known existed and so on.
there's a lot to be said for targeted advertising, whether through specific platforms or media (such as only advertising in byte magazine and therefore reaching a specific audience of tech-literates) or via big data style ad platforms such as adsense on youtube.
Re: Byte Magazine Volume 07 Number 08 – Logo (1982)
#80Learning Logo in elementary school is how I was introduced to the concept of recursion. I have a vivid memory of the moment I made the breakthrough in understanding in my head.
40 years later, I still want to giggle like a child when I find something in Emacs Lisp I can do more elegantly through recursion.