Am I missing the keyboard options? The $ instead of £ is an annoyance but I can’t handle the tiny enter key.
The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
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#212I used to like being able to control everything about my machine. I'd spend hours hacking away at making my Linux distro just the way I'd like it, and fixing things when they broke, figuring out drivers and oddities. This laptop seems to have the same culture.
Now I just buy a MacBook and the concept of "things breaking" and "having to fix my computer" just isn't a thing anymore.
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#213Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, the other reason is that customers don't care either. I certainly don't. The last desktop build I made 5 years ago hasn't had a single component changed in that entire time.
A friend of mine has a fairphone and broke its screen while he was staying with me. The fairphone is quite similar insofar as it is designed to be long lived and user serviceable. He ordered a screen, next day delivery, and changed it himself for about £60. Users care!
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#214But why the dongles? The go against all the principles of the rest of the design. They’re proprietary, consumable, and they waste space in the chasis. They limit what you can do with the USB-C they pass through too.
I think I read somewhere that they were planning to open up the specs of those modular ports. That may alleviate some of the points you bring up. (Can't find the source right now though.) In what way do they limit the USB-C they pass through?
> In what way do they limit the USB-C they pass through?
GP means that if you use one other than the USB-C pass-through module, it's (trivially) a proper subset of the USB-C functionality that you started out with.
I don't really see the issue: the alternative is that you do that in a dongle more external to the laptop anyway?
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#215Earlier quoted context omitted.
Linus (the "tech tips" one) said something that sticks in my mind: "The only reason other companies can't do this - and Framework proved it - is because they don't care."
Well, the other reason is that customers don't care either. I certainly don't. The last desktop build I made 5 years ago hasn't had a single component changed in that entire time.
Some don't, sure, but many do.
I care. I often swap out parts. My family and friends care, because I help them swap out parts when needed, especially during critical failures when they need it working ASAP and can't risk some corporation formatting the hard drive for no reason.
And my coworkers care because they're fellow techies and do this stuff, too.
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#216I would love to see Framework become successful and then also enter the phone space. We need a highly polished but open phone platform that isn't a walled garden under control of a tech giant.
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#217Very exciting. Hoping they will make something similar with: . 15 or 16 inch chassis . 4k display (OLED, if possible) . largest battery they allow on an airplane . no keypad . 2x speakers facing up . AMD, if possible . arrow keys as Apple does it . charge a premium for this - ppl will pay it!!! Basically just copy what Apple does but with a little customization. I know this would be difficult but hoping someone from…
It sounds like a MacBook with extra steps. Why not just get a MacBook?
What customization do you really need?
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#218I still remained baffled by the popularity of the laptop. Literally everyone I know works with them fixed in one location; their desk. Yes, some people do need mobility, but this appears to be a minority of consumers. We could’ve had all this repairability and modularity years ago if most consumers just admitted that really they wanted a desktop all along. It also fixed complaints about keyboards.
Really? This has maintained true for you even during the pandemic?
I don't know a single person who uses their laptop in one place. Hell, every one of my co-workers has been at home or in the office with their machine at least a couple times over the past month.
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#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
As the other comments have noted, Cory addresses this further down in the linked post. He further expanded on this in the post he wrote when he quit smoking[0]: > That was my homework: go away and think of an immediate reason not to smoke. When I came back, I had my answer ready: “I spend two laptops per year on smokes. That money goes directly to the dirtiest companies on Earth, the literal inventors of the science-…
Or he could just save the money. But I guess he has to constantly reward himself for quitting? Man addiction sure is a pain.
> Or he could just save the money.
What a stupid comment. He saved the money and spent it on what he wanted. The hell?
He should save the money and you should call your grandmother.
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#220>I've bought a new Thinkpad almost every year since 2006. Why? I bought a thinkpad and used it for 7 years. Who needs a new laptop every year? Especially these days Sorry I know it's besides the point of the article but it stood out to me
He discusses his reasons in the article, it was a reward to himself for quitting smoking.