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Millennials Not Having Babies Because of Climate Change

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Re: Millennials Not Having Babies Because of Climate Change

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I saw your link...I would like an explanation for why it was flagged and removed.

It's because it's nonsense. ~200M Americans have received a COVID vaccine. Some of those people died afterwards. Correlation does not imply causation.

There is plenty of nonsense on HN. I'd like to evaluate it for myself.

Re: Millennials Not Having Babies Because of Climate Change

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Or non-religion is a precursor to the kind of moral weakness that stunts a natural desire to reproduce? Maybe those who believe they are bringing souls into the world, rather than bags of meat and water, tend to have a more positive outlook on having children? Maybe those with no religion let the media's doomsday climate change scenarios become their version of Revelation?

How is not having kids a moral weakness?

If you read my comment, I didn't say not having kids itself is a moral weakness. I said that moral weakness leads to a lack of desire to reproduce.

Re: Millennials Not Having Babies Because of Climate Change

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or non-religion is a precursor to the kind of moral weakness that stunts a natural desire to reproduce? Maybe those who believe they are bringing souls into the world, rather than bags of meat and water, tend to have a more positive outlook on having children? Maybe those with no religion let the media's doomsday climate change scenarios become their version of Revelation?

The difference with revelation is that climate change is real. It is happening and will continue to happen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decian_persecution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diocletianic_Persecution

The iniquity talked about in Revelation has occured, occurs currently, and will continue to occur. Revelation has predicted more about human nature and the nature of government than climate change scientists could ever hope to.

Re: Millennials Not Having Babies Because of Climate Change

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or non-religion is a precursor to the kind of moral weakness that stunts a natural desire to reproduce? Maybe those who believe they are bringing souls into the world, rather than bags of meat and water, tend to have a more positive outlook on having children? Maybe those with no religion let the media's doomsday climate change scenarios become their version of Revelation?

> Maybe those who believe they are bringing souls into the world, rather than bags of meat and water, tend to have a more positive outlook on having children? I think it is more likely that following religions where you can only have sex in the context of attempted procreation leads to more children.

And isn't it a sign of moral strength to withhold yourself until marriage?

Re: Millennials Not Having Babies Because of Climate Change

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This resonates with me. I'm a Millenial(?[1]) and I've chosen not to have children on the basis of climate change. Talk all you want about how climate change is not a personal issue -- the decision to have children ( and how many ) is the singlemost environmentally impactful decision you will ever have direct, personal agency in making. For me, it's practicing what I preach, because I view climate change as the most…

> I'm a Millenial(? 1996)

These lines are by nature fuzzy and a bit arbitrary, but yeah just barely:

> In order to keep the Millennial generation analytically meaningful, and to begin looking at what might be unique about the next cohort, Pew Research Center decided [in 2018] to use 1996 as the last birth year for Millennials for our future work. Anyone born between 1981 and 1996 ... is considered a Millennial

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/01/17/where-mille...

Re: Millennials Not Having Babies Because of Climate Change

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I'm not having kids because it's too expensive. Nursery costs near me in London are approximately £18k/year per child. Basically it comes down to choosing between buying a house and having a kid.

> Basically it comes down to choosing between buying a house and having a kid.

If you already had a kid but everything else in your life was the same, what would you do?

Re: Millennials Not Having Babies Because of Climate Change

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The best lies contain some element of truth, for they need to be believable

Instagram...Today's tech industry & social media has exacerbated corporations' ability to brainwash the masses

We don't know if this is another marketing stunt/scam like recycling, sugar vs. fat, diamonds, bottled water, milk, etc.

Climate change might be true, but it is those who use it for personal gain that twist truths to their advantage. Think of Elon Musk, crypto, pro-choice... that use social media pervasively to shape the narrative.

Be very careful of these invisible forces that affect our behaviors unconsciously. Always search for truth, be a critical thinker.

1. https://www.npr.org/2020/09/11/897692090/how-big-oil-misled-...

2. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074...

3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eIDBV4Mpek

4. https://trendguardian.medium.com/free-will-a-rich-fairy-tale...

Re: Millennials Not Having Babies Because of Climate Change

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post #47

The best lies contain some element of truth, for they need to be believable Instagram...Today's tech industry & social media has exacerbated corporations' ability to brainwash the masses We don't know if this is another marketing stunt/scam like recycling, sugar vs. fat, diamonds, bottled water, milk, etc. Climate change might be true, but it is those who use it for personal gain that twist truths to their advantage.…

Who's benefiting from less kids?

Re: Millennials Not Having Babies Because of Climate Change

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I'm not having kids because it's too expensive. Nursery costs near me in London are approximately £18k/year per child. Basically it comes down to choosing between buying a house and having a kid.

What??? You could send them to a private secondary school for that.

Re: Millennials Not Having Babies Because of Climate Change

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This resonates with me. I'm a Millenial(?[1]) and I've chosen not to have children on the basis of climate change. Talk all you want about how climate change is not a personal issue -- the decision to have children ( and how many ) is the singlemost environmentally impactful decision you will ever have direct, personal agency in making. For me, it's practicing what I preach, because I view climate change as the most…

It's your prerogative not to have children, but if you're doing it for the climate, just know that there's going to be plenty of others in developing countries that will more than offset your decision not to have kids.
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