I don't think I've ever seen the Microsoft logo on page 22.
I call it their Metallica logo. It was short-lived but I like it way better then the teeth one that came after
Byte Magazine Volume 07 Number 08 – Logo (1982)
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Re: Byte Magazine Volume 07 Number 08 – Logo (1982)
#42A bit off topic... When I was a child, we had at home a "big yellow book" (mind you, I was 4 or 5 at the time, so maybe not that big) that taught about how computers worked in the first part and in the second part had Logo and BASIC games you could type into your PC. Since it was a book for children, it was full of illustrations but it went into some details (or maybe I'm adding stuff into it in retrospect). The main…
Was it "BASIC COMPUTER GAMES" from Creative Computing? I loved that book! (Probably not, from your description, but it was very big and very yellow and had a lot of games you could type in.)
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/624341.Basic_Computer...
https://ia902805.us.archive.org/1/items/basic-computer-games...
Re: Byte Magazine Volume 07 Number 08 – Logo (1982)
#43I have a copy of that issue and what stands out about it is the indifference that the regular contributors show to Logo.
Steve Ciarcia for instance, has an article about a graphics controller from Texas Instruments which has way too many sprites for logo (just need one for the turtle.) He codes with a soldering iron, struggles with assembly language, probably doesn't know BASIC and could care less about Logo.
Re: Byte Magazine Volume 07 Number 08 – Logo (1982)
#44I remember this issue. I used to read Byte magazine cover-to-cover, multiple times per issue. I also built many of the circuits they published and learned a tremendous amount from both hardware and coding articles. It's hard for people today to imagine a monthly publication with over 500 pages, yet that's what Byte became. It was fantastic. I still have a box full of articles I clipped before discarding my collection…
I was an irregular reader of Byte but I did enjoy it. Particularly, the front cover artwork was usually unique and interesting and, silly as it sound, the ads. I pour through them every time I got a copy. Its a real hoot to look at them today.
Re: Byte Magazine Volume 07 Number 08 – Logo (1982)
#45Logo Adventure for C64 Terrapin Logo (1983):
https://donhopkins.medium.com/logo-adventure-for-c64-terrapi...
>When I was 17, Terrapin published my first commercial code on their C64 Logo utilities disk: a Logo Adventure program, a simple non-graphical game that showed off Logo’s list processing and functional programming capabilities.
>I love Terrapin Logo! I got away with not having to write a parser, by simply using the Logo top-level read-eval-print loop as the parser, and defining Logo words like LOOK, N, S, E, W, TAKE, EXAMINE, etc. So it’s really easy to cheat by examining and modifying the state of the world, but that helps you learn Logo! [...]
Re: Byte Magazine Volume 07 Number 08 – Logo (1982)
#46Luckily my grandfather saved his Byte magazines and gave me the stack when I was about 12 yrs old (early 90s). I lived deep in the countryside and these were my only glimpse at the industry at the time and led to me seeking out other languages beside BASIC.
Re: Byte Magazine Volume 07 Number 08 – Logo (1982)
#47For all the Logo fans out here, here are some more Logo resources: 1. IBM PC Logo executable and manual (1983): https://winworldpc.com/product/ibm-logo/100 2. Atari Logo executable and manuals (1983): https://atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Logo 3. JSLogo (2009-2021): https://www.calormen.com/jslogo/ 4. Logo Exchange (1982-1999): https://el.media.mit.edu/logo-foundation/resources/nlx/ 5. Matrix bridge to Libera Chat…
Thank you for that! Here's some more stuff I posted before in this previous discussion about the history of Logo: History of Logo: https://escholarship.org/uc/item/1623m1p3 HN Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23052300 Comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23054174 Here is the source code to LLogo in MACLISP, which I stashed from the MIT-AI ITS system. It's a fascinating historical document, 1…
Your LLOGO copy was for an older version of Maclisp, but eventually we (Eric and I) managed to port it over to New IO. It works fine and displays on an emulated Knight TV. (Itself a tour de force in emulation: the TV PDP-11 code runs on an emulator sharing its Unibus with the PDP-10 emulator.)
We also have an early PDP-11 Logo, an even earlier BBN PDP-10 Logo, and a later Apple II Logo (not the Terrapin version). I also wrote an emulator for the General Turtle 2500 computer slash terminal.
Re: Byte Magazine Volume 07 Number 08 – Logo (1982)
#48A bit off topic... When I was a child, we had at home a "big yellow book" (mind you, I was 4 or 5 at the time, so maybe not that big) that taught about how computers worked in the first part and in the second part had Logo and BASIC games you could type into your PC. Since it was a book for children, it was full of illustrations but it went into some details (or maybe I'm adding stuff into it in retrospect). The main…
Was it "BASIC COMPUTER GAMES" from Creative Computing? I loved that book! (Probably not, from your description, but it was very big and very yellow and had a lot of games you could type in.) https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/624341.Basic_Computer... https://ia902805.us.archive.org/1/items/basic-computer-games...
It's not. The drawings were a bit more cartoony with "big heads and small bodies". The book also had a lot of Logo, which we couldn't really use because our computer back then only had a BASIC interpreter.
Thanks for the suggetion though :)
Re: Byte Magazine Volume 07 Number 08 – Logo (1982)
#49From the mid eighties onward, BYTE was instrumental in steering me towards Computer Science with inspirational articles by people like Dick Pountain and Steven Ciarcia (and, to a much lesser degree, Pournelle, whose articles seemingly mainly consisted of him breaking stuff and being astounded by tech supporters who did not know Who He Was). It filled for a while, together with Dr. Dobb's Journal, a space between the…
Steve's history went on beyond Byte:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Ciarcia
His projects in Byte were better IMHO as it was usually just him doing some cool or impressive stuff. Sometimes he'd get some help, but he didn't have a regular staff back then.
Re: Byte Magazine Volume 07 Number 08 – Logo (1982)
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
The ads in a publication like Byte (or many of the other computer magazines of the day) were a different beast. Quite often, they were the only way to learn about new products and the products advertised were relevant to the audience of the magazine. It is a far cry from the mass market advertising found on Facebook (or television, or radio).
Right. They were ads for stuff you likely actually found interesting, not ads for reverse mortgages and dubious real estate investments. Computer Shopper, another (and much, much larger, in terms of page count) magazine of the era was essentially nothing but ads. It had just enough editorial material to qualify it as a "magazine" under postal regulations (magazines had to pay less postage than pure advertisements). I…
Yep. I used to buy Computer Shopper issues for the ads. They were one of the best ways to find out about new components becoming available, and - of course - you were always looking for the lowest price for memory, power supplies, cases, etc. This was back when building your own PC from parts was much more common than it is today.
I kinda miss the "Computer Shopper era" TBH.