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The Truth, by Stanisław Lem (1964)

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Re: The Truth, by Stanisław Lem (1964)

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I'm having a hard time finding the original title of this story, The Truth. Prawda? Googling around isn't helping... Anyone know?

its Prawda.

It was part of The Invincible and Other Stories according to wikipedia [0]

[0] https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niezwyci%C4%99%C5%BCony_i_inne...

Re: The Truth, by Stanisław Lem (1964)

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Truly, being able to read Lem's works untranslated is my favourite thing about being a native polish speaker. There are some fantastic translations out there, but somehow, when it comes to sci-fi, I find works written in polish or other eastern european languages to flow better. In addition to the above, I find that reading an older physical edition adds much charm to vintage sci-fi. The copy of The Truth I own comes…

> native polish speaker. Ah, the man I want. Tell me, is "Ijon Tichy" a joke on "tachyon", or something else? (noticed that years ago, been wondering it could not possibly be accidental, not Lem ...)

Probably not, the name goes before the surname in Polish (like in English), so saying "Tichy Ijon" would sound a bit unnatural, even if the 'Citizen Tichy Ijon' form was promoted in communist time, probably as a borrowing from a more formal Russian?

The word 'tichy' means 'silent' in Czech/Slovakian, and maybe in some smaller Polish dialects.

Though http://encyklopediafantastyki.pl/index.php?title=Ijon_Tichy claims that "the ancestor of Tichy was called Cichy (the silent one in Polish), but the official putting down the name in the official register was lisping"

Re: The Truth, by Stanisław Lem (1964)

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Fair warning, this story is about 9,000 words. But it's so rich and weird and dazzling. It's among my favorite Lem stories — although i admit i hadn't read anything of his until we (MIT Press, where i work) started reissuing his books last year, so i'm by no means an expert on him. Anyway, there was a lot of interest in an excerpt from Lem's memoir I submitted here a few months ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item…

The first novel I read of him was "The Invincible", recommended here. It was great, but it didn't prepare me at all for the second book someone recommended me, "The Futurological Congress". It's like two different styles.

For me too, but it was actually two novels in one book, "The Invincible" and "Solaris", and I was young back then (maybe 8yo), and didn't understand that one novel can ends in the middle of the book. Was quite puzzled about the change of topic mid-flight.

My favorite book is "Wizja Lokalna", the title has been translated to English as 'Observation on the Spot' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observation_on_the_Spot). It's a wonderful allegory of problems related to the concept of the 'world of abundance' vs 'communism/authoritarianism'. The presented problems (ethico-sphere, abundance of material thing) are serious and well researched and described, even if in a humorous fashion.

Re: The Truth, by Stanisław Lem (1964)

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post #35

I'm having a hard time finding the original title of this story, The Truth. Prawda? Googling around isn't helping... Anyone know?

its Prawda. It was part of The Invincible and Other Stories according to wikipedia [0] [0] https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niezwyci%C4%99%C5%BCony_i_inne...

Thank you!

Re: The Truth, by Stanisław Lem (1964)

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I wish the subject of "solar life" was explored more in sci-fi. It's something that shows up every now and then, but rarely in any detail, or significant to the plot. For another example along these lines, there's David Brin's "Sundiver": https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/96472.Sundiver

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“Aren’t you a star any longer?” asked Lucy. “I am a star at rest, my daughter,” answered Ramandu...

“In our world,” said Eustace, “a star is a huge ball of flaming gas.”

“Even in your world, my son, that is not what a star is but only what it is made of." [--Ramandu]

C.S. Lewis, The Voyage of the "Dawn Treader"

Re: The Truth, by Stanisław Lem (1964)

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Marcin Wichary translated one of Lem's stories from Polish to English, and wrote an article about the translation process. https://mwichary.medium.com/translating-a-stanislaw-lem-stor... >Marcin Wichary: This is a backstory of why I translated Stanisław Lem’s short story One hundred and thirty-seven seconds. >Translations of [Lem’s] works are difficult due to passages with elaborate word formation, alien or robotic p…

I'm working on a translation of Limes Inferior, which is a novel about a stratified socialist economy, likely a commentary on soviet society.

Wow. Never heard of Janusz Zajdel or Limes Inferior, but i'm intrigued after reading the wiki pages for both. The book's summary brings to mind Zamyatin's "We." Are you translating it into English, and is there a publisher lined up?

Re: The Truth, by Stanisław Lem (1964)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really like the cover art on these books, by Przemek Dębowski. They have a very suitable and appealing retro-future look, I'd encourage people to them out. I actually ordered one from Dębowski as a poster recently.

I used (and attributed) some of the wonderful cover art and illustrations by Lem and Mroz and others from his web site, to illustrate this article about "GPT-3 Riffs on Stanislaw Lem’s Cyberiad and SimCity, and Admits it’s an Evil Machine": https://donhopkins.medium.com/gpt-3-riffs-on-stanislaw-lems-... Here are some of Lem's drawings: https://english.lem.pl/gallery/lems-drawings And Daniel Mróz's covers and illustra…

Brilliant, thanks :)

Re: The Truth, by Stanisław Lem (1964)

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post #28

Truly, being able to read Lem's works untranslated is my favourite thing about being a native polish speaker. There are some fantastic translations out there, but somehow, when it comes to sci-fi, I find works written in polish or other eastern european languages to flow better. In addition to the above, I find that reading an older physical edition adds much charm to vintage sci-fi. The copy of The Truth I own comes…

> native polish speaker. Ah, the man I want. Tell me, is "Ijon Tichy" a joke on "tachyon", or something else? (noticed that years ago, been wondering it could not possibly be accidental, not Lem ...)

I doubt it, as puns like this are generally not Lem's style in my opinion. "Tichy Ijon" kinda sounds like tachion, which is polish for tachyon, but I would chalk it up to coincidence.
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