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What is this Gemini thing, and why am I excited about it? (2020)

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Re: What is this Gemini thing, and why am I excited about it? (2020)

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I've been a reader of this gemlog and a fan of Gemini, I have been looking at minimal featured Gemini servers (everyone seems to be building one) and looking for one specifically that offers an http mirror, text and maybe inline images only. Particularly I'd like to do everything in markdown, does anyone know of a good one?

Re: What is this Gemini thing, and why am I excited about it? (2020)

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I'm a bit annoyed with the lack of _some_ inline image support. but making a browser for gemini is really really easy at least.

You could create a client that uses a non-standard markup and be able to render inline images just fine... oops! I think I just broke the web again :)

Re: What is this Gemini thing, and why am I excited about it? (2020)

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"My disdain for web browsers is well documented1."

Ha, I am not the only one.

I do like links though, somewhere around 2.3pre2, with stunnel or haproxy for up-to-date TLS.

Someone submitted an "improved" version of linenoise the other day, which added UTF-8 and ANSI codes by default.

But I prefer to avoid Unicode in the console (cf. terminal, I do not use a graphics layer plus emulator).

This is an example of enforcing developer preferences on the user where the result is added complexity. Perhaps nowhere is this added complexity more evident (obvious) than in the "modern" web browser and websites.

Links does not try to enforce its authors preferences too much on the user; for example, it has compile time options to disable utf8, ipv6 and getaddrinfo. The user makes the choice, not the developer.

The fundamental problem with "web development" is that its extremely aggressive in enforcing the developers (or web development cargo cult) preferences on the user.

Anyone remember that period where many commercial sites were a hollow shell that loaded a Flash animation. Perhaps a precursor to todays "SWAs". Funny, the Flash idea didnt last long. It died out long before browsers stop supporting Flash. These "trends in web development" are tiring and annoying.

Gemini doesnt allow for that level of "creativity". The focus is shifted to the information, not the presentation. The user comes first. The protocol may refelect the authors preferences but the result is reduced complexity.

Great project.

Re: What is this Gemini thing, and why am I excited about it? (2020)

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I don't quite get this... it sounds like the author mostly has issues with the HTML part of the web, but much of this seems to focus on the HTTP part.... why not keep http and just make a replacement for HTML? Writing an http server is very simple, too

Re: What is this Gemini thing, and why am I excited about it? (2020)

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I don't quite get this... it sounds like the author mostly has issues with the HTML part of the web, but much of this seems to focus on the HTTP part.... why not keep http and just make a replacement for HTML? Writing an http server is very simple, too

Writing an http client, on the other hand, is rather complex.
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