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The Truth, by Stanisław Lem (1964)

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Re: The Truth, by Stanisław Lem (1964)

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Fair warning, this story is about 9,000 words. But it's so rich and weird and dazzling. It's among my favorite Lem stories — although i admit i hadn't read anything of his until we (MIT Press, where i work) started reissuing his books last year, so i'm by no means an expert on him. Anyway, there was a lot of interest in an excerpt from Lem's memoir I submitted here a few months ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item…

Really glad to hear there is an effort forward to bring out more of Lem's work. One of the most interesting SF authors, with what would seem to be a deeper understanding of actual science than most of the others I've read. I especially love His Master's Voice, and am happy to see that on the list of MIT reissues!

Re: The Truth, by Stanisław Lem (1964)

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Creative fantasy? If life exists in the plasma of a Sun, creating an artificial 'sun' would no more create life than building a crib creates a baby.

The implication is that processes happen so much faster at temperatures over a million degrees that all you have to do is create the right conditions and then life evolves immediately from our temporal frame of reference. So the analogy would be closer to watching a goldilocks planet from the edge of the event horizon of a black hole.

Or a computer simulation running at 1 trillion X "real time".

Re: The Truth, by Stanisław Lem (1964)

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post #12
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He is also known among programmers for The Cyberiad, which is available in an amazing English translation by Michael Kandel. The Cyberiad is a collection of tales about two Constructor robots who travel together and try to outdo each other at creating bizarre and often disastrous inventions to solve problems on different planets. Edit: Here is a snippet in which Klaupacius challenges Trurl's latest invention, the ele…

What is really amazing about this (and about the whole English translation by Kandel, but the poetry is particularly amazing) is that to me, as a native English speaker, this seems like it was written originally in English--not written originally in Polish and then translated into English.

Oh man. Definitely. It was upon reading this story years ago that I realized just how magical translations of stories could be. Lem's humor is so precise and dependent on wordplay and the puns are non-stop. I have no idea how Kandel (the translator) was able to bridge the gap between two languages that are so different. The English language results are as sharp and precise as anything anything an English speaker might come up with. Possibly better in some instances.

Re: The Truth, by Stanisław Lem (1964)

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post #12
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He is also known among programmers for The Cyberiad, which is available in an amazing English translation by Michael Kandel. The Cyberiad is a collection of tales about two Constructor robots who travel together and try to outdo each other at creating bizarre and often disastrous inventions to solve problems on different planets. Edit: Here is a snippet in which Klaupacius challenges Trurl's latest invention, the ele…

What is really amazing about this (and about the whole English translation by Kandel, but the poetry is particularly amazing) is that to me, as a native English speaker, this seems like it was written originally in English--not written originally in Polish and then translated into English.

It seems to me that the English poem is indeed Kandel's original. There are very few similarities to the Polish version, other than the general theme. I found Lem's poem here: http://www.matematyka.wroc.pl/book/stanislaw-lem-zakochany-c...

Re: The Truth, by Stanisław Lem (1964)

#25

Fair warning, this story is about 9,000 words. But it's so rich and weird and dazzling. It's among my favorite Lem stories — although i admit i hadn't read anything of his until we (MIT Press, where i work) started reissuing his books last year, so i'm by no means an expert on him. Anyway, there was a lot of interest in an excerpt from Lem's memoir I submitted here a few months ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item…

I really like the cover art on these books, by Przemek Dębowski. They have a very suitable and appealing retro-future look, I'd encourage people to them out. I actually ordered one from Dębowski as a poster recently.

Re: The Truth, by Stanisław Lem (1964)

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is really amazing about this (and about the whole English translation by Kandel, but the poetry is particularly amazing) is that to me, as a native English speaker, this seems like it was written originally in English--not written originally in Polish and then translated into English.

It seems to me that the English poem is indeed Kandel's original. There are very few similarities to the Polish version, other than the general theme. I found Lem's poem here: http://www.matematyka.wroc.pl/book/stanislaw-lem-zakochany-c...

> It seems to me that the English poem is indeed Kandel's original.

Hm, interesting. Still impressive since he had to write the poem.

Re: The Truth, by Stanisław Lem (1964)

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Marcin Wichary translated one of Lem's stories from Polish to English, and wrote an article about the translation process.

https://mwichary.medium.com/translating-a-stanislaw-lem-stor...

>Marcin Wichary: This is a backstory of why I translated Stanisław Lem’s short story One hundred and thirty-seven seconds.

>Translations of [Lem’s] works are difficult due to passages with elaborate word formation, alien or robotic poetry, and puns. — Wikipedia

https://mwichary.medium.com/one-hundred-and-thirty-seven-sec...

>One hundred and thirty-seven seconds: A short story by Stanisław Lem published in 1976, translated from Polish in 2015 by Marcin Wichary

>Translator’s note: This is my first translation of a Stanisław Lem story. I tried to stay true to the spirit of the original as much as possible, which means original occasional odd idioms, mismatched units, and kilometer-long sentences. The story was published in 1976, and predates desktop publishing and the Internet. To the best of my knowledge, Lem has never visited America. If you are interested, read more about why I translated this story and the translation process.

Marcin actually stalked Stanislaw Lem in person when he was a boy:

>Memoirs of a train traveller: The day I stalked Stanisław Lem

>[...] It must’ve been early 1990s when I read somewhere that Stanisław Lem actually lives in Cracow and quickly, with a naïveté characteristic of a 14-year-old, I formulated a plan — I would go and visit him while we were there.

Then he went on years later to create the Lem Google Doodle! (Not to mention the PacMac one too!)

Stanisław Lem on Google’s homepage:

https://mwichary.medium.com/stanislaw-lem-on-google-s-homepa...

60th Anniversary of Stanislaw Lem's First Publication:

https://www.google.com/doodles/60th-anniversary-of-stanislaw...

Interactive Lem Google Doodle:

https://www.google.com/logos/lem/

Stanislaw Lem Google Doodle Album:

https://get.google.com/albumarchive/113565878895173133979/al...

I have always wanted to ask Michael Kandel how he translated the poetry of the Electric Bard from The First Sally of Cyberiad.

Especially the one that is "A love poem, lyrical, pastoral, and expressed in the language of pure mathematics. Tensor algebra mainly, with a little topology and higher calculus, if need be. But with feeling, you understand, and in the cybernetic spirit."

I was curious to see that poem in the original Polish, even though I don't know that language, just to compare them. I'd much appreciate hearing from a native Polish speaker how they compare.

Wonderful Poems:

https://www.donhopkins.com/home/catalog/lem/WonderfulPoems.h...

Horrible Poems:

https://www.donhopkins.com/home/catalog/lem/HorriblePoems.ht...

I asked Marcin about it, and he linked me to the original Polish version of the Electric Bard -- try translating it to English with google translate to appreciate how astronomically more excellent Michael Kandel's translation is than a machine translation. I really wish I could read and appreciate it in the original Polish!

https://web.archive.org/web/20190814065711/http://niniwa22.c...

Michael Kandel's Wonderful Translation:

    This wonderfully apropos epigram was delivered with perfect poise:

    The Petty and the Small
    Are overcome with gall
    When Genius, having faltered, fails to fall.
    Klapaucius too, I ween,
    Will turn the deepest green
    To hear such flawless verse from Trurl's machine.
Google Translate's Horrible Translation:

    Trurl was thrashing here and there, suddenly something crackled, 
    the press and the machine very matter-of-factly, calmly, declared:

    Envy, pride, egoism forces us to be petty.
    He will experience this by desiring to go with Electricity
    In competition, a certain simpleton.
    But Klapaucius
    The giant will overtake the spirit like a turtle in a car.
Here's an article about Lem translations that aptly describes Michel Kandel:

Stanislaw Lem has finally gotten the translations his genius deserves

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/stanislaw...

>Lem’s fiction is filled with haunting, prescient landscapes. In these reissued and newly issued translations — some by the pitch-perfect Lem-o-phile, Michael Kandel — each sentence is as hard, gleaming and unpredictable as the next marvelous invention or plot twist. It’s hard to keep up with Lem’s hyper-drive of an imagination but always fun to try.

Re: The Truth, by Stanisław Lem (1964)

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Truly, being able to read Lem's works untranslated is my favourite thing about being a native polish speaker. There are some fantastic translations out there, but somehow, when it comes to sci-fi, I find works written in polish or other eastern european languages to flow better. In addition to the above, I find that reading an older physical edition adds much charm to vintage sci-fi. The copy of The Truth I own comes from 1967 and the feel of the old, yellowed pages does enhance the reading experience.

Re: The Truth, by Stanisław Lem (1964)

#29

Fair warning, this story is about 9,000 words. But it's so rich and weird and dazzling. It's among my favorite Lem stories — although i admit i hadn't read anything of his until we (MIT Press, where i work) started reissuing his books last year, so i'm by no means an expert on him. Anyway, there was a lot of interest in an excerpt from Lem's memoir I submitted here a few months ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item…

I really like the cover art on these books, by Przemek Dębowski. They have a very suitable and appealing retro-future look, I'd encourage people to them out. I actually ordered one from Dębowski as a poster recently.

I used (and attributed) some of the wonderful cover art and illustrations by Lem and Mroz and others from his web site, to illustrate this article about "GPT-3 Riffs on Stanislaw Lem’s Cyberiad and SimCity, and Admits it’s an Evil Machine":

https://donhopkins.medium.com/gpt-3-riffs-on-stanislaw-lems-...

Here are some of Lem's drawings:

https://english.lem.pl/gallery/lems-drawings

And Daniel Mróz's covers and illustrations:

https://english.lem.pl/gallery/mroz-drawings

And some fantastic cover art:

https://english.lem.pl/gallery/covers

And Lem's photo album:

https://english.lem.pl/gallery/photo-album

Re: The Truth, by Stanisław Lem (1964)

#30

Fair warning, this story is about 9,000 words. But it's so rich and weird and dazzling. It's among my favorite Lem stories — although i admit i hadn't read anything of his until we (MIT Press, where i work) started reissuing his books last year, so i'm by no means an expert on him. Anyway, there was a lot of interest in an excerpt from Lem's memoir I submitted here a few months ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item…

The first novel I read of him was "The Invincible", recommended here. It was great, but it didn't prepare me at all for the second book someone recommended me, "The Futurological Congress". It's like two different styles.
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