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Re: iOS 15

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Post by nrvn »

signal11 wrote: post #115
DanTheManPR wrote: post #58

Apple continues to support OS updates on the iPhone 6s, a device released almost 6 years ago. Nor is it reserved for their flagship models - the 2016 iPhone SE also gets the latest and greatest. Meanwhile, my flagship android phone from 2018, the Samsung Galaxy S9, is stuck on the last version of Android. At least it still gets security updates, some manufacturers don't even go that far.

> Meanwhile, my flagship android phone from 2018, the Samsung Galaxy S9, is stuck on the last version of Android. That's inexcusable, and this attitude carried over to security updates is a big reason some corporates left Samsung and went to Apple -- e.g. the A5, a midrange phone comparable with the iPhone SE, lost access to updates when the device was perfectly usable. Samsung must've felt the feedback, because this…

Send regards to the Android architecture team at Google. The fact that OS is tightly coupled to the underlying hardware has no justification. Not does the fact that they have not yet reviewed the architecture…

MS Windows is Heaven on earth in this regard.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by arenaninja »

rootusrootus wrote: post #120
arenaninja wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I started buying iPhones. The resale value of a device after 2 years of usage is over 50% of the original cost if it's in good condition OEM quality is all over the place for Android, crapware is standard. It's been 4 years of iPhone for me and the only complaint I have is how bad Apple Maps can be

This, exactly, is why I switched to iPhones. The only way Android devices are cheaper is if you run them into the ground and don't upgrade until you must. Invariably they go on 50% off sale within a year for the flagship models, which tanks their resale value. Combined with the utter lack of support more than the first couple years of ownership. I can upgrade my iPhone every 2 or 3 years and spend a lot less overall.…

I found it too easy to run Android devices to the ground... I've run into boot loop, suddenly dead, too slow after an upgrade, battery starts running too hot, etc. on my android devices. Quality was severely lacking and somehow the devices are priced the same or higher than an iPhone!

Re: iOS 15

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Post by rootusrootus »

nicoburns wrote: post #132
rootusrootus wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This, exactly, is why I switched to iPhones. The only way Android devices are cheaper is if you run them into the ground and don't upgrade until you must. Invariably they go on 50% off sale within a year for the flagship models, which tanks their resale value. Combined with the utter lack of support more than the first couple years of ownership. I can upgrade my iPhone every 2 or 3 years and spend a lot less overall.…

> Invariably they go on 50% off sale within a year for the flagship models, which tanks their resale value. My strategy for my last phone was to buy the previous year's flagship for this reason.

That is a good strategy. I could have saved a good chunk of change by not insisting that I have the latest shiny.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by GeekyBear »

mdasen wrote: post #99
DanTheManPR wrote: post #58

Apple continues to support OS updates on the iPhone 6s, a device released almost 6 years ago. Nor is it reserved for their flagship models - the 2016 iPhone SE also gets the latest and greatest. Meanwhile, my flagship android phone from 2018, the Samsung Galaxy S9, is stuck on the last version of Android. At least it still gets security updates, some manufacturers don't even go that far.

It's so aggravating on the Android side. While a Motorola One 5G Ace might not be a flagship, it came out in 2021 and I'm stuck on Android 10. I don't know if Motorola (who says I should expect Android 11) is the issue or if it's my carrier. Android 11 came out 4 months before the Motorola One 5G Ace came out. A year later, no Android 11. I guess it's probably even more frustrating if you're paying Apple-like prices…

The original iPhone SE was $399 back in 2016 and is starting its sixth year of OS and security update support.

You can get both an affordable device and many years of support after the sale.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by jshier »

xeroaura wrote: post #14

Anyone that's been on the beta find any nice to have Safari extensions? And do these extensions also apply to (non-safari) apps using the webkit UI to render a page? Like content blocker applies to these as well as safari.

1Blocker has released an update for all platforms which adds a script extension to block YouTube ads. Doesn't help in the YouTube app or on the AppleTV, which is most of my usage, but is nice on the Mac (with today's Safari 15 release).

Re: iOS 15

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Post by cogman10 »

signal11 wrote: post #115
DanTheManPR wrote: post #58

Apple continues to support OS updates on the iPhone 6s, a device released almost 6 years ago. Nor is it reserved for their flagship models - the 2016 iPhone SE also gets the latest and greatest. Meanwhile, my flagship android phone from 2018, the Samsung Galaxy S9, is stuck on the last version of Android. At least it still gets security updates, some manufacturers don't even go that far.

> Meanwhile, my flagship android phone from 2018, the Samsung Galaxy S9, is stuck on the last version of Android. That's inexcusable, and this attitude carried over to security updates is a big reason some corporates left Samsung and went to Apple -- e.g. the A5, a midrange phone comparable with the iPhone SE, lost access to updates when the device was perfectly usable. Samsung must've felt the feedback, because this…

The only reason I buy a new phone at this point is because it falls out of security support.

I'm at the point of thinking of ditching the android ecosystem for the apple ecosystem for my next phone precisely because no android carrier seems to want to support devices for much longer than 3 years.

There are no hardware problems which keep me from using the phone, just the lack of software updates.

The other issue is that we seem to be at somewhat of a plateau of phone performance. My pixel 5 is not significantly faster than my old pixel 2XL.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by b3nji »

The Facetime update. Enabling you to be even further away from people interaction, including, but not limited to, watching a thing while on a Facetime conversion?

This truly is the end if all things

Re: iOS 15

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Post by themodelplumber »

0x000000001 wrote: post #140
themodelplumber wrote: post #123

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Why do iOS upgrades past one major version always slow down my devices so much though. It's been such a disappointing waste of system resources. Personally this is why I tried out Android and have so far stuck with it, (splitting my devices up between two OSes but whatever). So far my Androids get 2 years of bi-monthly security updates and at least 2 major Android releases by manufacturer policy, which is all I've ne…

Every major iOS update adds more functionality that consumes more CPU cycles even in the background. Unless something strictly requires new hardware to work, they include the features. Maybe if Apple refused to support new features on old hardware it would solve this issue, but then you just anger users who are forced to buy new hardware to get a new feature...

Certainly there's a creative workaround for this theoretical bind in which Apple find themselves? Refuse to support OR enable more functionality to the point of wrecking the user experience seems like a suspicious dichotomy.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by vanilla_nut »

stingraycharles wrote: post #104
DanTheManPR wrote: post #58

Apple continues to support OS updates on the iPhone 6s, a device released almost 6 years ago. Nor is it reserved for their flagship models - the 2016 iPhone SE also gets the latest and greatest. Meanwhile, my flagship android phone from 2018, the Samsung Galaxy S9, is stuck on the last version of Android. At least it still gets security updates, some manufacturers don't even go that far.

At the same time, I do have to admit that things got very, very slow on the original SE. Maybe it’s the battery life throttling thing, but just felt at the end of its life, even though the software kept updating.

Probably a deteriorated battery — I’m still using my SE 2016 and it’s still going very strong. But I have replaced the battery twice, once every 2-3 years.
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