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How Indian lawyers, scientists gave Sci-Hub its first legal defense team

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Re: How Indian lawyers, scientists gave Sci-Hub its first legal defense team

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Suppose SciHub looses cases in multiple countries and has to shutdown. What prevents someone from putting entire data as torrent?

Piracy is result of unfair prices. Music used to be pirated all the time but then Spotify came along with subscription based services. I don't know anyone who still pirates music. Maybe people with IP and copyright claims should learn from Music industry.

Re: How Indian lawyers, scientists gave Sci-Hub its first legal defense team

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Suppose SciHub looses cases in multiple countries and has to shutdown. What prevents someone from putting entire data as torrent? Piracy is result of unfair prices. Music used to be pirated all the time but then Spotify came along with subscription based services. I don't know anyone who still pirates music. Maybe people with IP and copyright claims should learn from Music industry.

> What prevents someone from putting entire data as torrent?

What do you mean by that? It's already a bunch of torrents on the official SciHub page.

Re: How Indian lawyers, scientists gave Sci-Hub its first legal defense team

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Suppose SciHub looses cases in multiple countries and has to shutdown. What prevents someone from putting entire data as torrent? Piracy is result of unfair prices. Music used to be pirated all the time but then Spotify came along with subscription based services. I don't know anyone who still pirates music. Maybe people with IP and copyright claims should learn from Music industry.

But pirating music is different from streaming it on some application. Like you don't own the music file you're just streaming it from some servers(in case of downloading you still need the app and can't share it to some other device).

Re: How Indian lawyers, scientists gave Sci-Hub its first legal defense team

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Suppose SciHub looses cases in multiple countries and has to shutdown. What prevents someone from putting entire data as torrent? Piracy is result of unfair prices. Music used to be pirated all the time but then Spotify came along with subscription based services. I don't know anyone who still pirates music. Maybe people with IP and copyright claims should learn from Music industry.

I am not convinced music prices were "unfair" -- they were higher than people wanted to pay. There is a distinction.

Re: How Indian lawyers, scientists gave Sci-Hub its first legal defense team

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Suppose SciHub looses cases in multiple countries and has to shutdown. What prevents someone from putting entire data as torrent? Piracy is result of unfair prices. Music used to be pirated all the time but then Spotify came along with subscription based services. I don't know anyone who still pirates music. Maybe people with IP and copyright claims should learn from Music industry.

Shutting down isn't actually on the table here. In the best case, she wins. In the worst case, she goes back to her post-USSR nation that doesn't really care about international copyright law and continues to ignore international copyright law.

Re: How Indian lawyers, scientists gave Sci-Hub its first legal defense team

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Suppose SciHub looses cases in multiple countries and has to shutdown. What prevents someone from putting entire data as torrent? Piracy is result of unfair prices. Music used to be pirated all the time but then Spotify came along with subscription based services. I don't know anyone who still pirates music. Maybe people with IP and copyright claims should learn from Music industry.

But pirating music is different from streaming it on some application. Like you don't own the music file you're just streaming it from some servers(in case of downloading you still need the app and can't share it to some other device).

I don't think that matters.

Everybody had a bunch (or thousands) of MP3s because mobile phones weren't a thing, fast mobile connections weren't a thing and there was simply no infrastructure to have something like Spotify.

If we'd have Spotify with everything in 2003, we would not swap hard drives in school breaks.

Re: How Indian lawyers, scientists gave Sci-Hub its first legal defense team

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Suppose SciHub looses cases in multiple countries and has to shutdown. What prevents someone from putting entire data as torrent? Piracy is result of unfair prices. Music used to be pirated all the time but then Spotify came along with subscription based services. I don't know anyone who still pirates music. Maybe people with IP and copyright claims should learn from Music industry.

> What prevents someone from putting entire data as torrent? What do you mean by that? It's already a bunch of torrents on the official SciHub page.

Yes, these torrents hold hundreds or thousands of articles each. You can help preserve them by downloading and seeding them.

Re: How Indian lawyers, scientists gave Sci-Hub its first legal defense team

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Suppose SciHub looses cases in multiple countries and has to shutdown. What prevents someone from putting entire data as torrent? Piracy is result of unfair prices. Music used to be pirated all the time but then Spotify came along with subscription based services. I don't know anyone who still pirates music. Maybe people with IP and copyright claims should learn from Music industry.

I am not convinced music prices were "unfair" -- they were higher than people wanted to pay. There is a distinction.

What is a fair price? There is no such thing.

An economically optimal price is one that maximizes total profit.

If it's too high, fewer people will buy the product, which might reduce profit. If it's too low, the profit margin will be small in spite of lots of units sold.

Re: How Indian lawyers, scientists gave Sci-Hub its first legal defense team

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Suppose SciHub looses cases in multiple countries and has to shutdown. What prevents someone from putting entire data as torrent? Piracy is result of unfair prices. Music used to be pirated all the time but then Spotify came along with subscription based services. I don't know anyone who still pirates music. Maybe people with IP and copyright claims should learn from Music industry.

Pirating music remains lively on the private tracker scene
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