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Paradise lost: The rise and ruin of Couchsurfing.com

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Re: Paradise lost: The rise and ruin of Couchsurfing.com

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Is there a good alternative? Does couchsurfing still work WELL if you’re willing to pay membership fees?

Membership fees was a horrible idea. They should have done a Wikipedia style "We need to pay to keep the lights on.. make a donation" and maybe offered a badge in return.

Re: Paradise lost: The rise and ruin of Couchsurfing.com

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Couchsurfing.com used to be a gem, I hosted a number of people so far removed from my bubble and had a great time with them. I hope a viable successor appears.

Open Hospitality Network just started. https://openhospitality.network

Their "Whose involved?" is a who's who of projects in the space.

Re: Paradise lost: The rise and ruin of Couchsurfing.com

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I'm a volunteer dev for https://couchers.org which was started in response to the Couchsurfing paywall and mentioned in this article. It's steadily growing in both users and features, and is open source and non-profit.

BeWelcome is similarly open-source and non profit, which I'd also recommend as a CS alternative (although they have a somewhat different vision to Couchers and CS).

Re: Paradise lost: The rise and ruin of Couchsurfing.com

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I used CS in 2008 in Switzerland, and it was a great experience. The people I met and stayed with were all nice and friendly (even if sometimes a bit quirky).

What shocked me was that even in the town of Bern, which is not a huge city, there were over a hundred people on CS who were advertising their couches or spare rooms for guests.

I loved the two week experience. It made me feel good about people. It also made the world seem smaller and more accessible.

A couple of years later I hosted a couple of teen brothers who were long boarding across the US. They were kind, goofy, and super appreciative. Again, a great experience.

I did read of some bad experiences, but the review system did seem to work pretty well for building reputation.

If CS had started charging $10/year, I think a lot of users would have paid it. That’s not much, and maybe not enough to fund it, but perhaps it would have postponed the bad changes.

Re: Paradise lost: The rise and ruin of Couchsurfing.com

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A friend of mine, she used to travel a lot, used it as a dating app. She said better as Tinder, more transparency and in the worst case still a comfy couch. She met her husband via it.

One of my hosts did the same. She was more casual about it.

But I also heard from people how they hated when guests would show up and start acting like it was for dating. So many profiles would explicitly state that they were not looking for dates.

Re: Paradise lost: The rise and ruin of Couchsurfing.com

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The social proof that a couch surfing reference brought was second to none. Each one boils down to this "I, a stranger, stayed for a few nights in this other strangers home for free, and they were good human beings". That social proof carried to any part of the globe you visited. I cannot think of an internet app that brought people together in a more meaningful and wholesome way at scale. It was great while it laste…

Pareto principle. 80% of people are decent human beings, but the 20% that aren’t cause 80% of the problems.

Re: Paradise lost: The rise and ruin of Couchsurfing.com

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Ah, couchsurfing. It truly was a paradise and a fantastic community. I have a lot of fond memories when I would just hitchhike whole summer throughout europe and beyond. Meeting all sort of people with every background imaginable. I don't think there is a way for me to recreate that kind of freedom anymore. And the community was really trusting to the point of ridiculousness - I remember one host in Italy had some emergency and had to go out of town for a day while I was about to appear and he just texted me where he left the keys lol

Re: Paradise lost: The rise and ruin of Couchsurfing.com

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I honestly don't think the paywall was such a bad idea. The barrier to entry was too easy, there were too many people on the platform who had no intention of hosting and were just looking for a free place to stay. The very small contribution at least ensures some level of commitment.

Re: Paradise lost: The rise and ruin of Couchsurfing.com

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Is there a good alternative? Does couchsurfing still work WELL if you’re willing to pay membership fees?

I think the community is kinda broken.

Can I reliably get a couch in most countries where the owner won’t try to rape, kidnap or rob me?

Then it’s good enough for me

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