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Mossad assassinated Iran’s chief nuke scientist with remote AI gun – report

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sudosysgen wrote: post #126
LewisVerstappen wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't really know how to feel about this. On one hand, it could mean less collateral damage and fewer civilian casualties than drone strikes. Just yesterday, the US had a drone strike that killed 10 civilians. The military and administration proceeded to lie about the strike and pretend they hit the target, but they were called out by the NY Times and had to backtrack. We could see fewer civilian deaths with technolo…

It's not an either or. Israel has no ability to carry out drone strikes in Iran.

Why do you say that? Genuine question. Didn’t they bomb a launch pad a year or two back? If you can do it with manned aircraft you can do it with a drone.

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popileviz wrote: post #56

Iran should have nuclear weapons if their citizens can be assassinated by foreign powers that proceed to brag about it openly. Imagine if the reverse happened - an Israeli scientist killed by Iranian special forces. The United States would be revving up for Iraq 2.0 in a matter of hours.

You left out Iran’s multiple statements about “pushing the Jews into the sea”.

It’s not like Israel is attacking Iran for shits and giggles.

And being a country of 9M surrounded by hostile powers means you make yourself appear as threatening as possible.

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_fnhr wrote: post #9

So this is a public bragging about illegally putting a gun in a foreign country and assassinating a person, all the while being comfortably sure that no national or international pushback will come. Quite disturbing to read.

As others have said, there is no “illegal” when it comes to international relations because there is no global body to enforce it.

Just like power within a nation, it’s violence that maintains order in the end.

The US had the motto “might makes right”. Wikipedia seems to suggest that there is no agreed upon meaning to that statement, but I always viewed it as “being right doesn’t matter if you can’t back it up with force”.

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29athrowaway wrote: post #97
koheripbal wrote: post #34

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There is no world court or legal structure. The word "illegal" has no meaning in international affairs.

UN's International Court of Justice (ICJ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Court_of_Justice

Let’s say I break a law and the ICJ decides to prosecute me. Who comes after me?

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readonthegoapp wrote: post #106
koheripbal wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no world court or legal structure. The word "illegal" has no meaning in international affairs.

The court that prosecuted the Nazis (and others) would like a word.

The same court that found Nazi’s guilty of a “war of aggression” for invading Poland when the judges bringing such charges did the same?

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Svoka wrote: post #160
yummypaint wrote: post #88

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Yes, we need to collectively do everything we can to prevent a nuclear tragedy of the commons. That includes continued disarmarment of countries already armed. The more devices exist in the world, the higher the probability that some will fall into the hands of people who are not subject to the same incentive structures as secular governments (i.e. religious nuts) who would eagerly use them. One nuke being unexpected…

Why do people throw term "tragedy of commons" at every problem involving group? This issue has nothing to do with "tragedy of commons" which deals with exhaustible resources, not nuclear weaponry control. Also, as I remember US bombed major cities using nuclear bombs, world didn't end.

The moment after the US bombed Nagasaki, there were no more usable nucler weapons left in the world. There was no such thing as an ICBM. Right now most of the world is pre-targeted by thousands of nukes mounted to space vehicles spread across half a dozen countries and on strike submarines. In the modern era if a country believes it may be under nuclear attack by another nuclear power, they have less than 2 minutes to decide whether to launch because their retaliatory capability would be crushed after that point. There is nothing remotely comparable about nukes in the ww2 era vs the post cold war era.

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refurb wrote: post #161
sudosysgen wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not an either or. Israel has no ability to carry out drone strikes in Iran.

Why do you say that? Genuine question. Didn’t they bomb a launch pad a year or two back? If you can do it with manned aircraft you can do it with a drone.

Because Iran has hacked drones, even American drones, repeatedly.

Manned aircraft aren't susceptible to that, but even then as Iran starts to get more modern Chinese and Russian SAM systems and gains experience with them Israeli manned excursions will get less frequent.

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Post by 29athrowaway »

refurb wrote: post #164
29athrowaway wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

UN's International Court of Justice (ICJ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Court_of_Justice

Let’s say I break a law and the ICJ decides to prosecute me. Who comes after me?

There's also ICC and INTERPOL, which are not part of the UN.

INTERPOL does come after you.

There are also extradition treaties.

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01100011 wrote: post #21

Not a lot of details in the article. I'm curious how 'AI' was actually used. Was it used to compensate for wind, distance, etc? Was it used to alert when the target was in range? Was it allowed to automatically recognize the target and deliver a kill shot? Was it used to make sure no innocents were behind him? Why did the apparatus weigh over a ton? It was only a matter of time before this happened though. With off-t…

That “lie in wait for years” part is absolutely spine chilling
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