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Re: Show HN: Ishim – find available one-word domain names

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Post by docuru »

phgn wrote: post #90
docuru wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it is for people love checking out for domains. I do it quite often myself. The price was one-time and I'll let people who purchased it judge. The main feature is to generate one-word or short domain names with different recipes, and help you find the available ones. Domain providers don't have the name generator feature.

Yes I understand that, and think your approach makes a lot of sense. I was just trying to counter the "why native app" argument here - people looking for a power-user tool likely appreciate a more persistent app compared to a website.

That's on point

Re: Show HN: Ishim – find available one-word domain names

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Post by docuru »

phgn wrote: post #59
docuru wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you mean why I choose ElectronJS: I wanted it be cross-platform, and ElectronJS was the easiest (partly because I already built and been using the main feature). If you mean why a desktop app: I've been using some web-based tools. Somehow, they don't last (ie. namemesh, or domainsfortherestofus that @pwdisswordfish8 mention went offline for sometimes). Then I thought having a desktop app would be great. For long t…

Also I assume you do WHOIS queries for availability checks right? The protocol doesn't work over HTTP in browsers.

You're correct. ElectronJS support Nodejs, and that's where the functions perform

Re: Show HN: Ishim – find available one-word domain names

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Post by zamadatix »

indigodaddy wrote: post #75
zamadatix wrote: post #73

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Creator can certainly create whatever they want but clearly target audience feedback on a paid product is valuable in steering the future direction of a product as is seen with the future goals so no need to discount it as unwarranted or paint it as unhelpful.

I didn’t realize it was a paid product, and I’d bet that most of the “complainants” didn’t know either, or weren’t framing it from that perspective in any case. Furthermore, now that it’s being framed as a paid product for this discussion, in my view, I believe they will be more successful in sales of a paid “piece of software” vs a webapp/SaaS/monthly model. Likely this was part of their reasoning of going down this…

> I didn’t realize it was a paid product, and I’d bet that most of the “complainants” didn’t know either, or weren’t framing it from that perspective in any case.

No need to place or assume blame on the other commentors for not telling you about what was in the page.

> Furthermore, now that it’s being framed as a paid product for this discussion, in my view, I believe they will be more successful in sales of a paid “piece of software” vs a webapp/SaaS/monthly model.

This seems like another thing you are forcing onto "what a webapp must be". Nowhere in making a webapp is it required to use a subscription model.

Another way to think about it is since it's not using desktop integration specific functionality it's already an offline copy of the webapp right now as is with Electron. The app is just effectively browser restricted to that Electron version. Removing that restriction does not relate to changing the offline static site delivery model nor a change in the payment model.

> Likely this was part of their reasoning of going down this path if I had to guess.

No need to keep guessing. As you said the author has already responded to the comments. As I said the page already promises an upcoming web version. There is no need for theoreticals.

Re: Show HN: Ishim – find available one-word domain names

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Post by docuru »

coretx wrote: post #64

- How do we know the search results are not hijacked/registered ? - How do we know the queries are not sold as a database ? - How do we know if and/or what third parties are involved ? - Which jurisdiction are we talking about? ( Does GDPR apply? )

That's a valid concern. I (the desktop app) don't track, collect your data or activities when using the desktop app.

When using the desktop app, there are 3 situations the app communicate with online servers:

1. For WHOIS queries, the app communicates directly to the WHOIS servers, no middleman

2. For payment using Paypal's smart button. They might collect some data for fraud detection.

3. When checking for updates or form submissions. The app will send the only necessary information to our server. For updates, we need "platform" (i.e win32, darwin, etc.) and "version" (the current Domain Tool version, i.e "0.0.21"). For contact form submissions, we need "email", "message", and the "type" of form submission

Note that when submit a contact form, the server don't collect your IP. But as the nature of request, the server can read your IP.

P/s: This remind me to add the privacy section

Re: Show HN: Ishim – find available one-word domain names

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Post by docuru »

docuru wrote: post #94
coretx wrote: post #64

- How do we know the search results are not hijacked/registered ? - How do we know the queries are not sold as a database ? - How do we know if and/or what third parties are involved ? - Which jurisdiction are we talking about? ( Does GDPR apply? )

That's a valid concern. I (the desktop app) don't track, collect your data or activities when using the desktop app. When using the desktop app, there are 3 situations the app communicate with online servers: 1. For WHOIS queries, the app communicates directly to the WHOIS servers, no middleman 2. For payment using Paypal's smart button. They might collect some data for fraud detection. 3. When checking for updates o…

*addition for #3 in the list above.

When activate your application, we need "email", "paidDate" (optional)

Re: Show HN: Ishim – find available one-word domain names

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Post by docuru »

junon wrote: post #70
indigodaddy wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no idea how people aren’t getting this. People, if the website that the tool is hosted on is down or gone, then you are dead out of water. That’s why he made a local tool. Get it?

Yes, though electron still isn't required.

The code can't run with only client JS. It needs a backend. ElectronJS allows running NodeJS as backend.

I tried React Native (only support JS on the client-side, need to build native modules to run some core functions for languages), Flutter (a few missing utilities, not so familiar).

I have answer why a desktop app in other comments so I won't repeat. Electron is the best fit in this situation.

Re: Show HN: Ishim – find available one-word domain names

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Post by dkersten »

indigodaddy wrote: post #87
zamadatix wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a static site you can still download a local copy from GitHub if you wish. It'll be delivered as a .zip if you do it from the browser.

You mean if the site is hosted on GH Pages or something? And in this scenario, the site hosted by GitHub goes down, so then I go to GitHub (which is down remember) and download the site, and use it locally, is that what you’re saying? Cmon man, let’s try to be realistic.

Yes, hosted on github pages. That’s what I said in my comment: hosted for free on github pages as a static site.

If GH pages goes down, you wait for it to come back. The point is that GH pages won’t disappear because of passage of time (ie you forget to pay hosting bill or something). It doesn’t guarantee 100% uptime but it doesn’t have to. The desktop download doesn’t guarantee 100% availability either.

If the tool is that critical to your workflow, you save it offline or host it on a redundant location (there are many free static site hosting services available: cloudflare worker sites, digitalocean apps, S3 — take your pick, maybe one has the uptime guarantees you desire, GH was just an example. Or host it in multiple)

Re: Show HN: Ishim – find available one-word domain names

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Post by bckygldstn »

docuru wrote: post #12
dirtybirdnj wrote: post #9

Hate to dogpile on this but why the app? Not trying to hate on you, genuinely curious why you chose this route. Sometimes using the tools you are most comfortable with at the time is the path to the highest short term productivity.

If you mean why I choose ElectronJS: I wanted it be cross-platform, and ElectronJS was the easiest (partly because I already built and been using the main feature). If you mean why a desktop app: I've been using some web-based tools. Somehow, they don't last (ie. namemesh, or domainsfortherestofus that @pwdisswordfish8 mention went offline for sometimes). Then I thought having a desktop app would be great. For long t…

Thanks for thinking about the longevity of your application!

Re: Show HN: Ishim – find available one-word domain names

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Post by indigodaddy »

dkersten wrote: post #97
indigodaddy wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean if the site is hosted on GH Pages or something? And in this scenario, the site hosted by GitHub goes down, so then I go to GitHub (which is down remember) and download the site, and use it locally, is that what you’re saying? Cmon man, let’s try to be realistic.

Yes, hosted on github pages. That’s what I said in my comment: hosted for free on github pages as a static site . If GH pages goes down, you wait for it to come back. The point is that GH pages won’t disappear because of passage of time (ie you forget to pay hosting bill or something). It doesn’t guarantee 100% uptime but it doesn’t have to. The desktop download doesn’t guarantee 100% availability either. If the tool…

So basically use the local application while you wait for GH pages to come back. Gotcha. 99% of people aren’t going to be downloading some GH pages site in case the site goes down….
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