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Mossad assassinated Iran’s chief nuke scientist with remote AI gun – report

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They apparently used some ML to make predictions about the position of the driver and the future position of the vehicle to account for the lag when they pulled the remote trigger from hundreds of miles away.

That's pretty trivial 'AI'. The headline mentioning AI is just for clickbait, in reality it was just a remotely-operated drone gun with a fire control system.

Most 'AI' is trivial. If spam detection had been invented today they'd call it "Spam AI".

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The NYT article they're cribbing from has a lot more details, but yes, the AI was to compensate for wind, distance and latency to the operator: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/18/world/middleeast/iran-nuc...

Consumers can buy similar off-the-shelf "smart" rifle scopes, marketed primarily for hunting: >The Eliminator LaserScope is the most innovative and effective hunting riflescope in the world. With the push of a button, the Eliminator IV ranges and displays the distance to the target (factoring in angle). It instantly calculates and displays the exact aiming point and wind data all inside the scope for complete situati…

Right but the actuator hardware stabilization includes a lot more like measuring and predicting preposition movements, calculating wind speed into the actuator, etc.

This system gives a shooter the calibration data and they can adapt second to second. Replicating a brain for a truck mounted gun with a 1.5s latency is a 10x magnitude of complexity

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This action was performed in a specific country - Iran. I am sure it was illegal there. Isn't that enough?

There are many things which are illegal in Iran yet practiced widely, like consuming alcohol or being attracted to your own gender. I wouldn't use the Iranian book of laws as a moral compass myself, but to each their own.

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So what is Israel likely to do when Iran has a working nuke? I ask as a half jew. These questions are intensely interesting to me. Probably "no one knows" is a decent answer, but I can't help but wonder what sort of plans are already in place. EDIT: I immediately regret asking about politics. Never mind. Hopefully things will work out.

Demand the USA pays for an endless war in money and American lives, obviously.

An anti-Semitic, inaccurate trope. Israel had no horse in the Afghanistan fiasco, no interest in seeing Iran consume Iraq's power elite (status quo now), no love for Assad's continued reign in Syria, and zero interest in US interventions in Kosovo, Panama, Grenada, Vietnam or Korea. By contrast, Israeli lives sacrificed in Lebanon & Syria & on behalf of Jordan have spared the US any need to intervene significantly (if at all) in those countries. Not to mention Iran's expenditures to undermine Israel limits its ability to undermine the Gulf States.

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I can't imagine it's for lack of trying.

I rather not discuss the whole conflict. The fact is though, that modern Iran has little to no history of military intervention* and at least no history to suggest that any (if any really exists) ambition towards acquiring nuclear weapons is anything more than sabre-rattling. * Wikipedia comes up with the odd missile-strike against the islamic state. Edit: There's a difference between financing terrorism/freedom figh…

You can't be serious. Iran is one of the most militarily active players in the Middle East. They usually don't do this through the Iranian military itself (other than wanting to send a message like the attack on Saudi Abaqiq facilities with cruise missiles in 2019 [0]). They use proxies, which receive funding, weapons, training and orders from Iran. Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, various Iraqi and Syrian militas are all extensions of Iran itself and perform daily attacks.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abqaiq%E2%80%93Khurais_attack

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There is no world court or legal structure. The word "illegal" has no meaning in international affairs.

This action was performed in a specific country - Iran. I am sure it was illegal there. Isn't that enough?

If Iran could (i.e. had the technological capabilities to) meaningfully retaliate against Israel (without suffering too much consequences), they very likely would.

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post #41

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There is no world court or legal structure. The word "illegal" has no meaning in international affairs.

This action was performed in a specific country - Iran. I am sure it was illegal there. Isn't that enough?

Were you under the impression that groups like Mossad, CIA, etc were law abiding groups? Their entire mission is to do illegal shit to forward their countries' national interest.

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post #67
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This action was performed in a specific country - Iran. I am sure it was illegal there. Isn't that enough?

Were you under the impression that groups like Mossad, CIA, etc were law abiding groups? Their entire mission is to do illegal shit to forward their countries' national interest.

So if these are not "law abiding" groups, then by definition part of what they do is illegal. Which is the word I used in my comment.

I don't understand these replies.

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Iran and Israel are at low level war since many decades.

This question is out of pure curiosity: can you give me some examples of this "low level war" being fought? Specifically, what has Iran done that's along the same lines as murdering a nuclear scientist?

Pure curiosity yet incapable of the simplest of simple searches

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_relations

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Iran should have nuclear weapons if their citizens can be assassinated by foreign powers that proceed to brag about it openly. Imagine if the reverse happened - an Israeli scientist killed by Iranian special forces. The United States would be revving up for Iraq 2.0 in a matter of hours.

It is hard enough for the US and Russia to prevent accidental nuclear launch, detonation or loss. Many such incidents over the years. So, before you righteously wish nuclear capability on Iran, you might consider the non-linear increase in risks associated with each new entry into the nuclear club.
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