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A Pint a Day (1996)

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Re: A Pint a Day (1996)

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Post by lend000 »

smichel17 wrote: post #24
lend000 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there an archive link to the second article? The conclusion is not available... I find the premise interesting, but consider how many supplements/drugs intentionally inhibit MAO's at much higher than ng/L quantities and how promising they seem for Parkinson's (there seem to be more positive studies than negative studies, though the measured effect in both types tends to be quite small). It seems unlikely to be the…

https://www.sci-hub.ru/https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/a...

Thanks. Their conclusion: "The contribution of harman in alcoholic beverages to the overall pharmacological and/or toxicological effects of the amine and its relationship to alcoholism needs to be investigated."

Re: A Pint a Day (1996)

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Post by popcube »

mindvirus wrote: post #29

I'm allergic to beer, and it's the strangest thing. If I have one normal beer, the next day my face is flush and my eyes are red. Two and I've got a hangover and a runny nose. I'm not much of a drinker, but other alcohol doesn't affect me like this - a cocktail or two and I'm fine the next day. Bread and wheat doesn't seem to have negative effects, so I have no idea what it could be. Anyone else experience similar th…

they add crady things into beer, I heard some type will add oyster shell...

Re: A Pint a Day (1996)

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Post by eurasiantiger »

lend000 wrote: post #51
smichel17 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.sci-hub.ru/https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/a...

Thanks. Their conclusion: "The contribution of harman in alcoholic beverages to the overall pharmacological and/or toxicological effects of the amine and its relationship to alcoholism needs to be investigated."

And this would be that investigation, from 1996!

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8651457/

Re: A Pint a Day (1996)

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Post by ProjectArcturis »

lend000 wrote: post #51
smichel17 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.sci-hub.ru/https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/a...

Thanks. Their conclusion: "The contribution of harman in alcoholic beverages to the overall pharmacological and/or toxicological effects of the amine and its relationship to alcoholism needs to be investigated."

Just once, I'd like to read a scientific paper that concludes, "We have completed study of this field. No further research is necessary."

Re: A Pint a Day (1996)

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Post by eurasiantiger »

lend000 wrote: post #23
eurasiantiger wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1541-4337... (See table 22) https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1530-0277....

Is there an archive link to the second article? The conclusion is not available... I find the premise interesting, but consider how many supplements/drugs intentionally inhibit MAO's at much higher than ng/L quantities and how promising they seem for Parkinson's (there seem to be more positive studies than negative studies, though the measured effect in both types tends to be quite small). It seems unlikely to be the…

A lot of things inhibit the monoamine oxidases, but not that many things inhibit them at such small quantities, implying that these Harmala alkaloids are exceptionally bioactive.

Re: A Pint a Day (1996)

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Post by cspeterson »

mindvirus wrote: post #29

I'm allergic to beer, and it's the strangest thing. If I have one normal beer, the next day my face is flush and my eyes are red. Two and I've got a hangover and a runny nose. I'm not much of a drinker, but other alcohol doesn't affect me like this - a cocktail or two and I'm fine the next day. Bread and wheat doesn't seem to have negative effects, so I have no idea what it could be. Anyone else experience similar th…

I know someone who recently visited an allergist to investigate a similar response to beer, and testing suggested his issue was sulfites which are a common beer additive

Re: A Pint a Day (1996)

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Post by popcube »

ProjectArcturis wrote: post #54
lend000 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks. Their conclusion: "The contribution of harman in alcoholic beverages to the overall pharmacological and/or toxicological effects of the amine and its relationship to alcoholism needs to be investigated."

Just once, I'd like to read a scientific paper that concludes, "We have completed study of this field. No further research is necessary."

lung cancer and cigarette

Re: A Pint a Day (1996)

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Post by eurasiantiger »

popcube wrote: post #57
ProjectArcturis wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just once, I'd like to read a scientific paper that concludes, "We have completed study of this field. No further research is necessary."

lung cancer and cigarette

Not by a long shot. The average person still thinks the culprit is nicotine, when nicotine is rather harmless compared to the addictiveness of concommittantly administered Harmala alkaloids, and to the damage caused by inhaling nano-/microparticulate matter and hot combustion gases.

Re: A Pint a Day (1996)

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Post by [deleted] »

mindvirus wrote: post #29

I'm allergic to beer, and it's the strangest thing. If I have one normal beer, the next day my face is flush and my eyes are red. Two and I've got a hangover and a runny nose. I'm not much of a drinker, but other alcohol doesn't affect me like this - a cocktail or two and I'm fine the next day. Bread and wheat doesn't seem to have negative effects, so I have no idea what it could be. Anyone else experience similar th…

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