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Literally all they’ve been doing with that money is investing in sustainable power. I’m sure they’re fine.
Which just lets them export more of the dino stuff they extract. Good move if you can do it. Can they give up exporting it too though? I doubt that will happen.
"an end to Norwegian production would have a net negative effect on global emissions. Demand would stay the same, and cleaner Norwegian production would be replaced by other countries with higher emissions"
While these things might well be true, there is a distinct and corrosive 'hypocrisy factor' in Norway shifting it's society to sustainable energy, all paid for by continuing fossil fuel exports to the rest of the world.
Norway could prove it's green leadership credentials, and send a very clear rallying message to the rest of the world, by starting to shut down this industry, perhaps redirecting it to deep geothermal, etc.
Norway is an interesting case because their own energy grid is mostly powered by renewables. However, they export huge amounts of fossil fuels to other countries: > With their hydro-powered energy grid and electric cars, they are among the world’s most enthusiastic consumers of green power, but decades of exporting oil and gas means this nation of 5.3 million enjoys a generous welfare buffer, and sits on the world’s…
It's the drug dealer model: NEVER eat your own dog food.
Its “just say no” with cartel scale sales operations.
Norway is an interesting case because their own energy grid is mostly powered by renewables. However, they export huge amounts of fossil fuels to other countries: > With their hydro-powered energy grid and electric cars, they are among the world’s most enthusiastic consumers of green power, but decades of exporting oil and gas means this nation of 5.3 million enjoys a generous welfare buffer, and sits on the world’s…
Whether this matters depends on what you're counting. The main problem is that if you count this Norwegian electricity that Germany buys towards Germany's renewable energy percentage, you shouldn't also count it towards Norway's or it gets double-counted. One approach is to just ignore the EECS as fiction and only count local generation, in which case Norway does look fairly clean (and Germany less clean than some numbers would suggest). A different approach is to consider stuff sold on the EECS as actually swapped for other energy (at least on paper) and compute a "residual mix" after the sales. In that way of accounting, Norway doesn't have a very green residual mix: https://medium.com/@skloesch/why-norwegian-and-icelandic-and...
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Which just lets them export more of the dino stuff they extract. Good move if you can do it. Can they give up exporting it too though? I doubt that will happen.
If we don't export petroleum products, someone else will. Much of the money we earn from petroleum is spent on making "the green shift" happen. Can other exporters say the same?
"It might affect our own climate budget, but it’s not going to make a difference globally," "an end to Norwegian production would have a net negative effect on global emissions. Demand would stay the same, and cleaner Norwegian production would be replaced by other countries with higher emissions" While these things might well be true, there is a distinct and corrosive 'hypocrisy factor' in Norway shifting it's socie…
Literally all they’ve been doing with that money is investing in sustainable power. I’m sure they’re fine.
Which just lets them export more of the dino stuff they extract. Good move if you can do it. Can they give up exporting it too though? I doubt that will happen.
How much would Norway lose if they pivoted to exporting plastics instead of crude oil for burning?
Norway is an interesting case because their own energy grid is mostly powered by renewables. However, they export huge amounts of fossil fuels to other countries: > With their hydro-powered energy grid and electric cars, they are among the world’s most enthusiastic consumers of green power, but decades of exporting oil and gas means this nation of 5.3 million enjoys a generous welfare buffer, and sits on the world’s…
It's the drug dealer model: NEVER eat your own dog food.
"It might affect our own climate budget, but it’s not going to make a difference globally," "an end to Norwegian production would have a net negative effect on global emissions. Demand would stay the same, and cleaner Norwegian production would be replaced by other countries with higher emissions" While these things might well be true, there is a distinct and corrosive 'hypocrisy factor' in Norway shifting it's socie…
Norway is an interesting case because their own energy grid is mostly powered by renewables. However, they export huge amounts of fossil fuels to other countries: > With their hydro-powered energy grid and electric cars, they are among the world’s most enthusiastic consumers of green power, but decades of exporting oil and gas means this nation of 5.3 million enjoys a generous welfare buffer, and sits on the world’s…
It's the drug dealer model: NEVER eat your own dog food.