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ChucK: Strongly-Timed, Concurrent, and On-the-Fly Music Programming Language

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Re: ChucK: Strongly-Timed, Concurrent, and On-the-Fly Music Programming Language

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Post by rollcat »

bullen wrote: post #8
ssalazar wrote: post #5

Ha, great to see ChucK on here again! I'm one of the early developers of ChucK along with its creators, Ge Wang and Perry Cook. Happy to answer any questions anyone has.

I have been waiting for the audio equivalent to svg for pictures for an eternity now, why has nobody made a synth sound addition to midi?

csound? pd?

Re: ChucK: Strongly-Timed, Concurrent, and On-the-Fly Music Programming Language

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Post by rollcat »

tom4000 wrote: post #10
bullen wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been waiting for the audio equivalent to svg for pictures for an eternity now, why has nobody made a synth sound addition to midi?

That sounds like a neat idea. Reminds me on SoundFont. But isn't Midi the equivalent to SVG, Wave the equivalent to BMP, Flac to PNG and MP3 the one to JPEG?

> But isn't Midi the equivalent to SVG

MIDI (1.0) is more equivalent to NES/GameBoy-style sprites. It was designed almost exclusively with piano-like keyboard controllers in mind, suffers from a lot of 80's-era hardware limitations, heavily biased towards western music, relies completely on the sound bank for actual rendering (you can't even set your own pixels on a sprite - you can only say "paint a Mario here"), relies in some places on vendor-specific extensions, overall really it hasn't aged as nicely as say TCP.

A true "SVG, but for music" kind of equivalent would be an insanely interesting and challenging project. I'm not even sure if it should strive for more of a middle ground (so it can gain widespread adoption), or for flexibility (so it doesn't constrain creativity and allows expressiveness).

Also check out: MIDI 2.0, OSC.

Re: ChucK: Strongly-Timed, Concurrent, and On-the-Fly Music Programming Language

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Post by ArtWomb »

ssalazar wrote: post #5

Ha, great to see ChucK on here again! I'm one of the early developers of ChucK along with its creators, Ge Wang and Perry Cook. Happy to answer any questions anyone has.

I use ChucK all the time since forever. And in completely different contexts. Generating blips for UI handlers or random audio data to test an FFT implementation. It really is the easiest music programming language to grok, and the built in concurrency primitives are awesome ;)

I wonder if its possible today to port the RTAudio lib ChucK is based on to the Web Audio API. Can we possibly see a ChucK.js for use in browser?

Re: ChucK: Strongly-Timed, Concurrent, and On-the-Fly Music Programming Language

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Post by duped »

tom4000 wrote: post #10
bullen wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been waiting for the audio equivalent to svg for pictures for an eternity now, why has nobody made a synth sound addition to midi?

That sounds like a neat idea. Reminds me on SoundFont. But isn't Midi the equivalent to SVG, Wave the equivalent to BMP, Flac to PNG and MP3 the one to JPEG?

MIDI is more analogous to a coloring book than SVG

Re: ChucK: Strongly-Timed, Concurrent, and On-the-Fly Music Programming Language

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Post by tellersidd »

bullen wrote: post #8
ssalazar wrote: post #5

Ha, great to see ChucK on here again! I'm one of the early developers of ChucK along with its creators, Ge Wang and Perry Cook. Happy to answer any questions anyone has.

I have been waiting for the audio equivalent to svg for pictures for an eternity now, why has nobody made a synth sound addition to midi?

As mentioned, there are so many languages for music/synthesis. pd, csound, SuperCollider, max/msp.

I don't know how you can want this so bad an not run into these. I mean I had the csound book like 15-20 years ago.

Re: ChucK: Strongly-Timed, Concurrent, and On-the-Fly Music Programming Language

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Post by iainctduncan »

fanf2 wrote: post #15

How does ChucK compare to Sonic Pi? https://sonic-pi.net/

This comes up a lot. Sonic Pi is not a audio programming language. It's a composition language that is a front end to an audio language. Sonic Pi sends requests for audio to SuperCollider under the hood. Chuck is comparable to SuperCollider, Csound, RCMix, Faust, that sort of thing. Sonic Pi is comparable to Overtone, Common Music, my own Scheme for Max/Pd, that sort of thing.

Re: ChucK: Strongly-Timed, Concurrent, and On-the-Fly Music Programming Language

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Post by zebproj »

bullen wrote: post #8
ssalazar wrote: post #5

Ha, great to see ChucK on here again! I'm one of the early developers of ChucK along with its creators, Ge Wang and Perry Cook. Happy to answer any questions anyone has.

I have been waiting for the audio equivalent to svg for pictures for an eternity now, why has nobody made a synth sound addition to midi?

Module file formats [0] have been around since the 80s, and they can kind of be thought of as MIDI files with sound samples embedded in them. You can get some very impressive sounding full-length tracks in only a few kilobytes.

0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module_file

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