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A Pint a Day (1996)

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Re: A Pint a Day (1996)

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> a pint of beer provides about 180 kcal Then two paragraphs down: > Contrary to popular opinion, however, beer does not contain any fat. Rather, the pot bellies of heavy drinkers probably result from the effects of alcohol as an appetite stimulant.

Not sure why you’re downvoted; you’re correct. This 1996 article reflects the debunked 90s logic that eating fat makes you fat.

Re: A Pint a Day (1996)

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One quibble - in my experience the water content of beer doesn't outweigh the dehydrating property of breaking the seal. The first time I wrongly tried to quench my thirst with multiple beers, on a summer day in the desert when I was 13, I nearly ended up in the hospital with dehydration and heat stroke. Water does work best in those situations, and beer will definitely aggravate dehydration.

Re: A Pint a Day (1996)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you're drinking tobacco beer, or a peganum harmala infused brew, I don't think there are MAOI's present in beer. A quick google search doesn't really show anything as well, can you cite any sources?

Sure. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1541-4337... (See table 22) https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1530-0277....

Is there an archive link to the second article? The conclusion is not available...

I find the premise interesting, but consider how many supplements/drugs intentionally inhibit MAO's at much higher than ng/L quantities and how promising they seem for Parkinson's (there seem to be more positive studies than negative studies, though the measured effect in both types tends to be quite small). It seems unlikely to be the critical factor determining health effects in alcoholic beverages.

Re: A Pint a Day (1996)

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1541-4337... (See table 22) https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1530-0277....

Is there an archive link to the second article? The conclusion is not available... I find the premise interesting, but consider how many supplements/drugs intentionally inhibit MAO's at much higher than ng/L quantities and how promising they seem for Parkinson's (there seem to be more positive studies than negative studies, though the measured effect in both types tends to be quite small). It seems unlikely to be the…

https://www.sci-hub.ru/https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/a...

Re: A Pint a Day (1996)

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Sample size 1 and I don’t drink a beer a day but usually several times a week. I’ve been off it for two weeks though (covid) and my digestion seems much better.

Re: A Pint a Day (1996)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you're drinking tobacco beer, or a peganum harmala infused brew, I don't think there are MAOI's present in beer. A quick google search doesn't really show anything as well, can you cite any sources?

Sure. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1541-4337... (See table 22) https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1530-0277....

Interesting, thanks! So, these MAOIs are not present in the ingredients of beer/wine, but are instead thermally produced (probably some cyclization reactions involving tryptophan or tyrosine?)

Anyway, judging by those tables the problem isn't unique to beer and wine; many other foodstuffs in there as well. And the doses are so low that I don't think you can conclude that beer consumption causes poisoning by monoamine oxidase inhibitors.

Those tables show 1-100 microgram/L concentrations of MAOIs. Compare that to eg. harmaline that requires >100 mg doses for pharmacologically meaningful effects, even accounting for slow metabolism and dose accumulation it seems farfetched.

Re: A Pint a Day (1996)

#29
I'm allergic to beer, and it's the strangest thing. If I have one normal beer, the next day my face is flush and my eyes are red. Two and I've got a hangover and a runny nose.

I'm not much of a drinker, but other alcohol doesn't affect me like this - a cocktail or two and I'm fine the next day.

Bread and wheat doesn't seem to have negative effects, so I have no idea what it could be.

Anyone else experience similar things or have any idea what it could be?

Re: A Pint a Day (1996)

#30
"A drink a day makes your brain fog go away"

See data from "The largest human cognitive performance dataset reveals insights into the effects of lifestyle factors and aging" https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2013.0029...

In particular, the optimal cognitive test results were for ~1 drink a day (0 is worse than 3 drinks!). Also, 7h a sleep a day was the best.

With a disclaimer: correlation is not causation! (E.g. I suspect that some may abstain from alcohol for health reasons.)

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