6th Generation Stealth Fighter: Joint Effort by UK, Japan, Italy and Sweden?
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#2> “We want to be able to upgrade, advance [and] develop our capabilities ourselves, and as sovereign countries inside the partnership, each partner has that goal,” Commodore Moreton explained.
Is this flexibility really a worthy goal? I feel like it would be better for these countries to reduce the number of variables and work to scalably and cheaply build many of them. It doesn’t have to be one plane for every mission necessarily, but the ability to customize for each nation feels like a distraction rather than a feature.
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#3> “We want to be able to upgrade, advance [and] develop our capabilities ourselves, and as sovereign countries inside the partnership, each partner has that goal,” Commodore Moreton explained. Is this flexibility really a worthy goal? I feel like it would be better for these countries to reduce the number of variables and work to scalably and cheaply build many of them. It doesn’t have to be one plane for every missi…
Generally yes. If you have domestic defense contractors they can participate in various fitting and retrofitting programs without having to back engineer some of the SWaP[1] specs for the stuff the US defense contractors are making for the F35.
I also suspect it would help if you have air war doctrine differences with the US (like guns vs missiles as an example).
[1] Space, Weight, and Power. It defines the envelope within which the avionics and other gear have to operate.
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#4So they don't actually know what direction to take aircraft in and decided on stealth.
Seems reasonable, all else being equal, the party that is detected last has a higher chance of winning.
What happens when a new detection method is developed that makes these planes not stealthy? Don't you then just have 4-5th gen craft that cost 2-10x as much?
Guess it takes a real war to discover the actual winner of modern warfare.
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#5Just get nukes, no one will attack you then.
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#6i don't know the future of air fighter but this news remind me of Elon Musk saying the fighter jet era is gone.
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#7I'm far from an expert but given the timeliness and complexity of 5th generation fighters I'm sceptical this could be operational by 2035 unless there have already been significant work or it's more of an iterative generation.
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#8i don't know the future of air fighter but this news remind me of Elon Musk saying the fighter jet era is gone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKJ-uS55mhM
This doesn't seem especially wrong to me. There were a lot of horses after the cavalry era was over, and the cavalry era was over long before the generals realized it.
The next war is going to be a drone (low-intensity) and hypersonic missile (high-intensity) war... it's not going to look like Top Gun.
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#9I've seen contractors who are artful in taking government contracts for a long and extended ride, but Defence contractors take it to the next level.
Re: 6th Generation Stealth Fighter: Joint Effort by UK, Japan, Italy and Sweden?
#10So they don't actually know what direction to take aircraft in and decided on stealth. Seems reasonable, all else being equal, the party that is detected last has a higher chance of winning. What happens when a new detection method is developed that makes these planes not stealthy? Don't you then just have 4-5th gen craft that cost 2-10x as much? Guess it takes a real war to discover the actual winner of modern warfa…
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