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GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other cars

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Re: GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other cars

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That’s not how these industries work. The new kids on the block start with talent, largely hired from the more established players.

Well, good luck hiring away enough of a team in the foreseeable future... That's one of the major bottlenecks in the industry at the moment.

Don’t shoot the messenger

Re: GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other cars

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And totally understand the sentiment, but Foxxcon isn’t blamed if iPhones start to fail left and right, Apple is. The people branding the car are responsible for their supply chain.

The Hyundai Kona Electric was discontinued in Korea because it uses the same batteries from LG, yet has continued to sell the Kona Electric elsewhere. Do you also blame Hyundai?

Yes I do, and that is good information :)

Re: GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other cars

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Death by burning from an exploding battery from an uninspected, poorly-mainteained car in the garage of your shared low-rent apartment building is also a regressive tax. I'll take the inspections.

It's not like states without inspections have an endemic of exploding cars as it is. I don't think the justification for inspections is really there.

Fuel-based cars tend to burn after an extreme adverse event, usually a collision.

Battery fires are more frequently spontaneous, or occur during charging.

How many barbequed children do you find an acceptable number?

Re: GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other cars

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> Electric car fires are no big deal anymore. > Easy solution: Put them in a tub full of water for at least 24 hours How is this not a big deal? This forces firefighters, which sometimes are small departments without a lot of resources, to transport the cars. It's a nuissance if it's 1 car, but a parking lot caching fire would be an absolute nightmare. If a car catches fire in a narrow street in the middle of a city,…

> How is this not a big deal? First of all sorry for my English, I sometimes fail to find the right words, so it's sometimes hard to explain what I mean. It's not a big deal in the sense that you'll call the control/dispatch center and tell them that you'll need a tub for an EV. They'll then take care of getting it to you and that's what firefighters worry about. How the car leaves the place? None of the firefighters…

It's very possible that the resources (tubs) for a large amount of cars, as in this scenario, would not be available. Even if it's a yesterday problem in the operational level, the logistics look fragile.

Re: GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other cars

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It's not like states without inspections have an endemic of exploding cars as it is. I don't think the justification for inspections is really there.

Fuel-based cars tend to burn after an extreme adverse event, usually a collision. Battery fires are more frequently spontaneous, or occur during charging. How many barbequed children do you find an acceptable number?

Battery fires usually happen after collisions too. Fires while charging are rare but they grab headlines because they're novel.

I think trying to use inspections to solve that is a case of barking up a really stupid tree. In the case of EV charging fires there's not really much a mechanic can inspect that some electronics cobbled onto the pack couldn't. In the case of battery pack damage an annual inspection isn't going to do much good since most of those cases will cause problems before that or not at all.

Re: GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other cars

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I kind of hope that gets to be an (infrequent) problem. As it is, I've lately been wondering about what happens to 14 year-old electric cars with dead batteries that cost more than the car is worth.

People like me buy them for $500 and put the motor in a grass kart

I had no idea what a 'grass kart' was, so I looked it up.

Cool stuff! And thanks for repurposing the motors.

Re: GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other cars

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Fuel-based cars tend to burn after an extreme adverse event, usually a collision. Battery fires are more frequently spontaneous, or occur during charging. How many barbequed children do you find an acceptable number?

Battery fires usually happen after collisions too. Fires while charging are rare but they grab headlines because they're novel. I think trying to use inspections to solve that is a case of barking up a really stupid tree. In the case of EV charging fires there's not really much a mechanic can inspect that some electronics cobbled onto the pack couldn't. In the case of battery pack damage an annual inspection isn't go…

"Parked Teslas Keep Catching on Fire Randomly, And There's No Recall In Sight"

https://www.thedrive.com/news/28420/parked-teslas-keep-catch...

Article list 9 cases. None involved accidents. Several were during charging, one during transport (on a flatbed truck).

All are of

Re: GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other cars

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Idk I drive my grandfathers old car and I think most people have at least 2 grandfathers

The world's population is growing. Even if everyone's grandfathers had a magic car that lasted forever, what you describe wouldn't work for everyone.

Hi, my apologies, just got to your message. Implicit was my assumption that cars will be outlawed ~10 years from now, meaning we have every car that we need today. “Grandfather” was shorthand for “grandfathered in”

Re: GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other cars

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Idk I drive my grandfathers old car and I think most people have at least 2 grandfathers

Where did your grandfather get his car? From his grandfather? In any case, both of my grandfathers have been dead many years. And I assure you, the last cars they owned (which were manufactured in the 60s) are not what we want on the roads today.

(See my response to the sibling of this comment)

Re: GM tells some Bolt owners to park 50 feet away from other cars

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The world's population is growing. Even if everyone's grandfathers had a magic car that lasted forever, what you describe wouldn't work for everyone.

Hi, my apologies, just got to your message. Implicit was my assumption that cars will be outlawed ~10 years from now, meaning we have every car that we need today. “Grandfather” was shorthand for “grandfathered in”

> my assumption that cars will be outlawed ~10 years from now

That seems completely baseless though.

> “Grandfather” was shorthand for “grandfathered in”

In the sentence "I drive my grandfathers old car and I think most people have at least 2 grandfathers"?

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