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France Recalls Its Ambassadors to the U.S. and Australia over a Submarine Deal

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Re: France Recalls Its Ambassadors to the U.S. and Australia over a Submarine Deal

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Is it just me or are there more off-topic political posts on HN lately?

I've been busy today, didn't see if the daily yellow peril story hit the front page (China's about to invade Taiwan, China should respect British sovereignty in Hong Kong, China should treat Uighur terrorists nice like the US did in next door in Afghanistan etc.)

Re: France Recalls Its Ambassadors to the U.S. and Australia over a Submarine Deal

#42
post #7

Is it just me or are there more off-topic political posts on HN lately?

No downvote on posts, I wish this were implemented but I also know the implications are many

You can flag posts, even if you can't downvote them.

Re: France Recalls Its Ambassadors to the U.S. and Australia over a Submarine Deal

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There's no question that nuclear subs are more appropriate for Australia, especially against a sophisticated opponent like China. Hopefully USA and Australia can compensate France in some way to maintain their prestige.

France can do nuclear subs, Australia explicitly wanted diesel, until they suddenly didn't want diesel anymore.

Arms deals are a joke always, they don't make sense, its basically all corruption fraud and lies.

Re: France Recalls Its Ambassadors to the U.S. and Australia over a Submarine Deal

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It looks like the vaunted experience of Biden and his team has not translated into any sort of deft policymaking, particularly in foreign policy. The messy pullout out of Afghanistan, followed by this scuttling of the deal in progress between Australia and France have reinforced the notion that Uncle Sam can not be relied upon, even by his closest allies. Pretty surefire way of helping fence-sitters become client sta…

Because I am french I will not say anything too dark. But yes, this SUB contract was big. Giant.And Naval Group is partially a state company. The Worth for french community is this : 1) French just hatted Trump. Deeply. His sense of hatting his allies ( Germany...) and loving his foes ( North Corea, ect). 2) As opposed, French loved Biden. More rounded, multi cultural, more social like in Europe. I would say french p…

The nuclear subs appear to have much bigger advantages over conventional subs, so on the merits of the product, perhaps the US/UK combine increases security in the Pacific and strengthens the "contain China" strategy. Similarly, withdrawing from Afghanistan puts an end to twenty years of lying to the American public that the Afghan war was even a modest success, and allows resources and political capital to be focused on other efforts/strategic goals of national interest. But it has all been done in a hamfisted way.

Re: France Recalls Its Ambassadors to the U.S. and Australia over a Submarine Deal

#46
post #7

Is it just me or are there more off-topic political posts on HN lately?

It's not just you. That's all it is these days. I was thinking of making an app that would take HN posts, and apply a categorization layer that would filter out political posts. Too much excitement around what regulators are doing. I really don't care.

Re: France Recalls Its Ambassadors to the U.S. and Australia over a Submarine Deal

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It’s pretty much an Anglosphere FU to the EU here, but the stakes are one countries military industrial complex vs another.

With nuclear tipped deterrents all around the world why are we so determined to play these power games? Not that it’s anything new of course. It reminds me of the future played out in Dune where nobody can act openly against each other so everyone is trained in espionage - what are those subs going to do? Give a 2 minute head start on 10 minute ICBMs?

Re: France Recalls Its Ambassadors to the U.S. and Australia over a Submarine Deal

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post #39

There's no question that nuclear subs are more appropriate for Australia, especially against a sophisticated opponent like China. Hopefully USA and Australia can compensate France in some way to maintain their prestige.

China is Australia's largest trade partner, and China owns tons of Australian real estate (residential and industrial), and one out of 20 Australians considers themselves of Chinese ancestry.

It doesn't seem to make much sense to conceive of Australia and China as submarine warfare opponents.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems that the user base here has been deteriorating and the focus has been drifting away from the SV startup scene. I've also been noticing a growing political atmosphere that is in opposition to SV norms. A sign of the times probably, but I also suspect that HN's usefulness to Ycombinator is fading.

> Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

You know what else is as old as the hills? Those guidelines.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140702092610/https://news.ycom...

It might have been an illusion before but I personally think HN feels more like Reddit nowadays compared to then.

Re: France Recalls Its Ambassadors to the U.S. and Australia over a Submarine Deal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems that the user base here has been deteriorating and the focus has been drifting away from the SV startup scene. I've also been noticing a growing political atmosphere that is in opposition to SV norms. A sign of the times probably, but I also suspect that HN's usefulness to Ycombinator is fading.

Massive technical military contracts seems extremely SV to me? Isn't that where it all started?

This is all geopolitics. nothing about technology or specifics on anything interesting.
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