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The Linux Distributions of 1992

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Re: The Linux Distributions of 1992

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I recall being in a B. Dalton Bookstore in the mid-90's. I picked up a book that had "Linux" on the cover. In the cover it had a floppy disk or two. Something felt very wrong to me. You can't give away an entire operation system! Perhaps this was just some "free for educational purposes" thing? I went home and fired up WebCrawler on AOL and came across Yggdrasil. I had experienced Unix on an SGI system. And I was ver…

> A friend of mine bought the RedHat 5.2 distro from Best Buy

Ahh wow, this brings me back.

I bought, or rather had my parents buy, this exact same package from Best Buy when I was in high school or maybe the end of middle school. I remember thinking in the store that it was impossible for there to be something that wasn't Windows or Mac, and the packaging was so cool.

These were also the "10,000 Best Windows Games" shareware CD-ROM days (anyone remember the Aztech Cube pack? [1]) I was fascinated by the fact that Red Hat came with thousands of "packages" that weren't shareware. And that thicc documentation, wow so sexy. A printed catalog with info on each package. I remember feeling a sense of limitless possibility while flipping through its pages.

Installed Red Hat on a Pentium 1 Baby-AT tower that I picked up from Goodwill for $20. My friend and I spray painted it that summer and I slapped a 52x Creative Technologies branded CD-ROM drive with a cable that connected directly to a genuine Creative SoundBlaster sound card for music CD playback. I remember thinking how cool I was to have a Creative CD-ROM drive working with my Creative SoundBlaster playing Vertical Horizon's "Everything You Want" on Linux. All I needed was a KVM switch to play Civ 2 on my junkyard Win 95 Gateway pizza box sitting next to it.

Wild times.

[1]: https://www.mobygames.com/company/aztech-new-media-corp

Re: The Linux Distributions of 1992

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My first installation in 1995 or 1996 was from a set of about 12 overwritten AOL floppy disks my friend had built from his installation of Slackware onto a 386SX. Later I got a 486 with a first gen 1x Sony CDROM drive that had it's own controller card, and I didn't have documentation for the DMA and IRQ settings. I had a RedHat CD from a magazine, so I had to go through a very long installation startup process from boot floppies to get to the CD config, and just kept guessing and rebooting until it finally worked and I discovered it wouldn't read the CD. I ended up going to a RedHat installfest somewhere in Maryland in the DC suburbs, I think at a Navy facility? It was on a Saturday and we were alone in this big government building and I remember there being a big rolling display of slices of a monkey brain in the lab where the installfest was being held. They had loaner 3Com 10baseT cards and a network install server running, so I was finally able to get it all working.

Re: The Linux Distributions of 1992

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SLS Linux was my first distro. It was probably early 1993 when I first installed it, on a 386SX/20 with 3 megs of RAM. I think it was on 12 or 16 floppies.

I ordered a set of SLS floppies from some random person I learned about via Usenet news groups (comp.os.minix and later comp.os.linux). It used Linux kernel version 0.99pl12 or thereabouts.

I had previously been using Coherent Unix (with the enormous compendium in a thick book).

I was first setting up my home NFS server using NE2000 Ethernet cards to try all that out.

This was all run on a Gateway 386 @ 25MHz which started with 4MB of RAM.

Re: The Linux Distributions of 1992

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post #41
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember discussions back the day between Linux and Windows proponents. I was clearly in the Windows camp, seeing Linux fans as, well, bizarre sometimes arrogant pseudo programmers. That changed, now that Linux is probably the last OS I can run without a cloud account easily. Heck, I'd even pay for it! Back the day I was a gamer, the main reason why Linux never really was an option. Later for work, it was Windows a…

> Linux fans as, well, bizarre sometimes arrogant pseudo programmers. To be fair, some of us were smug as hell. I once picked an argument with a guy simply because he was wearing a Microsoft t-shirt.

Unfortunately this trend continues in the Linux Desktop community. It seems it never outgrew its teenager mindset.

Re: The Linux Distributions of 1992

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When I was about 12 or 13 I ran a website called freelin.org. This was around 2001. Its goal was to provide Linux on CD to anyone who asked, globally, without cost. My hope was that donations would cover costs. They didn’t. I tried my best to supply everyone based on pocket money (allowance) at the time. To my shame, a few people who donated £1 didn’t get a CD. If this was you, please let me know and I will make it up to you. I apologise.

My enthusiasm was powered by the ability to do good by using my cable internet connection to download ISOs in trivial time.

I cut a strange figure at the post office every Saturday sending packages to places like Macedonia.

Re: The Linux Distributions of 1992

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post #47

Crazy how much old software had ties to universities ( tamu Linux, BSD, wuftpd ). Are there any modern examples of this or have universities gotten out of the software game

My guess is that university culture changed a lot over the last couple of decades, as well as the mainstream perception of computing technology and the Internet shifting from a neat science fiction type thing that some of us dreamed about to being completely ubiquitous.

Most of the technology that powered the Internet in some form or another came out of the Universities prior to the dot-com boom. If you wanted to do something interesting with computers and networks on a scale that mattered, academia was really your only option. (Yes there were BBSes and AOL, and dial-up Internet in most areas. But in terms of what you could do, those were like driving a golf cart on the autobahn.)

Now that the Internet is everywhere and programming as a career path is seemingly as popular as nursing or construction, the direction if the Internet is largely being determined by large companies and governments, not the people (or even the type of people) who built it. I suspect university CS departments probably lost that "wacky misfit club" atmosphere a long time ago. I'm sure the insane-and-rising cost of higher education isn't helping things out either.

All that said, lots of Universities do still provide material support for open source software in the form of hosting and mirrors. For example, around half of all Ubuntu and Debian mirrors are universities. The OSU open source lab hosts infrastructure for a variety of projects.

I also feel like we can "blame" Github here, since it (and a few other sites/projects like it) have become the de facto place to host source code and collaboration tools. (Whereas in the past it would have been an FTP/HTTP site and a mailing list.)

Re: The Linux Distributions of 1992

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"Because of the general bugginess of SLS"

I was there, and I don't recall that. It all "just worked" in the summer of 93 which was mere months after this article. On a 40 mhz 386dx, a kernel recompile took about an hour with 4 megs of ram so I upgraded to 5 megs using 4 256K sticks (back then simms were 8 bits wide and the 386 had a 32 bit bus, so ...) and then compile times dropped to 15 minutes. X window system worked fine IIRC.

The big problem with SLS is the distribution method was zipped floppy disk images downloaded from BBSes that were basically split up tar files. So the only update mechanism to fix a minor corner of the X window system would be to redownload all the "X" series disk images, then do a complete reinstall of the X window system.

IIRC the A series of floppy disks was about three disks and would boot and do nothing, but it did verify your hardware worked with linux so it was a natural starting point. The B series installed a "complete unix CLI environment" and the C series installed the compilers although you needed to install the K series to get the kernel source. In those days I believe we did not have modules yet so I had to recompile to get the mitsumi proprietary "not quite IDE" cdrom driver, or at least if we had modules nobody distributed that module in compiled format. Also in the pre-PCI era we set our ports and IRQs manually and it was possible at boot to override but most people recompiled their kernel to their local soundblaster sound card settings or whatever. I believe there might have been a T series of floppies which installed TCL/TK.

The superb innovation of Debian was once you got it installed and you connected to the internet you could download deb files and upgrade, perhaps, just perl. Or you could install, perhaps, just the gawk implementation of awk. About half a decade later came apt and you could now upgrade "automatically" over the internet which seemed quite magical at the time.

A big part of Debian in the old days was all FOSS license so its safe to use at work, and the universal OS "everything should be possible" kind of the opposite of the modern debian systemd era "theres only one way we will let you compute, and you'll like it or leave". I don't recall any claims of being bug free or less bugs at all; if anything debian was worse LOL.

It was not clear until the APT era that binary distribution was the way to do linux. In the "old days" if you wanted a fancy irc client you simply ftp downloaded the source and tar -xzf whatever.tar.gz ; make ; make install ; make clean it and it worked quite well.

Re: The Linux Distributions of 1992

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post #62

My first installation in 1995 or 1996 was from a set of about 12 overwritten AOL floppy disks my friend had built from his installation of Slackware onto a 386SX. Later I got a 486 with a first gen 1x Sony CDROM drive that had it's own controller card, and I didn't have documentation for the DMA and IRQ settings. I had a RedHat CD from a magazine, so I had to go through a very long installation startup process from b…

Also 1995 or 96 for me. I had read about Linux on the web and attempted to download a floppy version and install it, but to no avail. Then I saw a book with accompanying Slackware CD in the bookstore. Best investment I ever made. I /devoured/ that book and got it all working. The desire to have my own free UNIX on my PC probably drove me to learn faster than I have before or since. The rest is history...

Re: The Linux Distributions of 1992

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I tried both Yggdrasil and SLS in 1993 when I was still in grad school, ran SLS for a while on my 386 PC (with no floating point). Lots of floppies and slow downloads in those days.
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