Is the car turning right (after a no right turn sign) while it was supposed to be going straight according to nav?
Exactly! What the heck spooked the "AI"?
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Haha how is that illegal? The driver took over way before the car entered the crosswalk section.
"Entered the crosswalk section" is a rather euphemistic way of describing "drove directly through where the people were going to be"
That's not what I saw. I saw the car abort it's turn that would have taken it through the crosswalk in front of the people and not impeding them. Still illegal, but a far cry from almost hitting them.
The car aborted (or was aborted by the driver) and stopped before finishing it's turn on the road from what I saw, leaving it at about a 45 degree angle instead of the 90 degrees it would eventually reach if it continued turning.
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#43The tweet that went viral was a clip of a video posted by a Youtube channel owned by someone else. Seems pretty obvious the copyright owner who would make a claim against the tweet was the Youtube channel who owned the video.
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#44Interestingly, the original creator of the video has since made it private. FSD beta testers are carefully handpicked — a lot of the Tesla “influencers” are given access for some free marketing. I wonder how many FSD bad driving videos are not uploaded to YouTube at all because they don’t want to say anything negative about Tesla and possibly lose influence/ad revenue.
This is on top of Tesla classifying FSD as level 2 system (while promoting as “level 5 soon”) so they don’t have to share data with CA DMV. Only reason not to be transparent like the others is if you’re not confident in your system.
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#45"almost hitting pedestrian" It wasn't even close. Look at where the ped is at 12 seconds, compared to the car. It's because he stopped the turn, and straightened the vehicle that the pedestrian stopped and looked up with concern (at 13 seconds). Even if the pedestrian broke out into a full run, they wouldn't have been in any real danger. This sort of close interplay between pedestrians and cars is very common in citi…
Agreed it wasn't close, but it's still not the kind of behavior you'd want to see in a robot car. If I were a passenger in a car where a human driver did this, I would wonder if they were impaired, and I would no longer trust their driving abilities. Tesla's whole selling point is that a) autonomous cars are safer than human drivers b) we are almost there. This clip shows both claims are questionable at the moment.
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#46Almost hitting pedestrian is a big stretch. Car had enough time to stop before he took hold. He probably just picked up the wheel because he didn't want the car going that way.
This would have been reckless from a human driver and was just as reckless for FSD.
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#47Is the car turning right (after a no right turn sign) while it was supposed to be going straight according to nav?
Exactly! What the heck spooked the "AI"?
Some of the discourse suggested that previously it had had problems with the pillars for the monorail running down the median, and the owner/driver was trying it again to see if it had improved.
One of the big limits of this kind of AI is that it does not provide human-legible explanations for its actions. You cannot put it in front of a tribunal.
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#48Based on the audio in the video it seems like they were testing a Tesla FSD update? It sounded like they deliberately drove it in an area that it did not handle well and even commented that it was 'better'.
It seems like it thinks the lane shifted to the right because it had to reason to do a right turn.
Anyone have more insight into what occurred?
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#49"almost hitting pedestrian" It wasn't even close. Look at where the ped is at 12 seconds, compared to the car. It's because he stopped the turn, and straightened the vehicle that the pedestrian stopped and looked up with concern (at 13 seconds). Even if the pedestrian broke out into a full run, they wouldn't have been in any real danger. This sort of close interplay between pedestrians and cars is very common in citi…
I agree, but this is probably the worst behavior I've seen of the FSD software.
It abruptly tried to do a right turn on a no-right intersection with no warning (map said it was supposed to go straight, it looked like it was going to do that right up to the last second).
Putting aside the "almost hitting a pedestrian", this is really dangerous behavior for an autonomous vehicle.