I'd like to see the comparisons in waste of the Bitcoin ecosystem and the dollar ecosystem.
Can the bitcoin ecosystem replace the dollar ecosystem? Because if not then what's the point?
Bitcoin's growing e-waste problem
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh you mean like those people who fly around in private jets while admonishing people for inter alia flying on commercial airliners too much? (Remember: you're just a peasant. Money elevates you into a new ontic reality where the normal moral principles don't apply.)
That's true. But that's everyone. I've yet to meet a single person who is willing to make the personal sacrifices needed to actually help the world. You get a bunch of normal people (i.e. 'peasants' if you wish) sitting around talking about how to save the environment while eating fruit grown in a faraway land and trucked to them in a refrigerated truck. Everyone wants to say the solution is that other people should…
I have friends who eat vegan, eat more local foods, have cut down meat consumption, avoid travel (yes, before COVID), are reducing their plastic use to near zero, and so on. Few are taking all of that on but some are and there are many other ideas I've heard people taking on.
We keep a garden alongside getting the rest of our vegetables from a local farmer who produces far into the winter via a CSA. We have started replacing some meat consumption with egg consumption from the chickens we keep. We do other things but we definitely have more opportunities. There have been some really nice shifts in perception as our reduced consumption has reduced our stresses and lifted our wealth trajectory.
Consider: could you be hosting some social norms and exhibit some behaviors that keep you from interaction with such people?
[edit: s/eat a vegan/eat vegan/]
Re: Bitcoin's growing e-waste problem
#113We don’t deserve this beautiful planet.
Nature doesn't care, life will continue to exist. Humans deserve nothing, we're only given a slice of time. Life on earth is both beautiful and merciless. We're involuntary actors in a fractal universe. I do hope that we can develop effective methods to combat climate change so that we can enjoy clean water and a roof above our heads for a bit longer. It would be a shame if our civilisation disappears without a trace…
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#114HackedNews has a growing Bitcoin FUD problem. Seriously biased news source, none of the benefits of Bitcoin ever get reported on here.
my favourite benefit of bitcoin is how it uses the entire energy output of yemen to send someone five bucks
Each to their own I guess.
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#115We don’t deserve this beautiful planet.
Re: Bitcoin's growing e-waste problem
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's true. But that's everyone. I've yet to meet a single person who is willing to make the personal sacrifices needed to actually help the world. You get a bunch of normal people (i.e. 'peasants' if you wish) sitting around talking about how to save the environment while eating fruit grown in a faraway land and trucked to them in a refrigerated truck. Everyone wants to say the solution is that other people should…
Actually, lots of people say "be the change" and I know quite a few who follow that suggestion. I have friends who eat vegan, eat more local foods, have cut down meat consumption, avoid travel (yes, before COVID), are reducing their plastic use to near zero, and so on. Few are taking all of that on but some are and there are many other ideas I've heard people taking on. We keep a garden alongside getting the rest of…
Hilariously opposite to the intended message. Sorry, I just found it very funny, have an upvote to make up for my shitpost reply.
I believe in leading by example rather than leading by dictate. Others seeing what's actually possible is far more encouraging of change than pointy fingers and harsh words.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
my favourite benefit of bitcoin is how it uses the entire energy output of yemen to send someone five bucks
My favourite benefit of Bitcoin is bypassing the hideously inefficient and corrupt Wall Street financial vampiric system that provided the world with the Global Financial Crisis for which it suffered the punishment of being given billions of dollars by the US Government. Each to their own I guess.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
My favourite benefit of Bitcoin is bypassing the hideously inefficient and corrupt Wall Street financial vampiric system that provided the world with the Global Financial Crisis for which it suffered the punishment of being given billions of dollars by the US Government. Each to their own I guess.
yeah im sure accelerating the planet turning into an uninhabitable wasteland is really worth it just to stick it to the man, you fucking troglodyte
You give me the kind opportunity to quote a favourite lyric of mine:
The do-er and the thinker: no allowance for the other
Thick as a Brick, Jethro Tull[0]
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#119HackedNews has a growing Bitcoin FUD problem. Seriously biased news source, none of the benefits of Bitcoin ever get reported on here.
my favourite benefit of bitcoin is how it uses the entire energy output of yemen to send someone five bucks
1) The Yemen number is for the whole system. The energy to send one transaction is tiny and much smaller than using the existing remittances system.
2) With a bank, it's not even clear you could send $5 to Yemen as there's a civil war going on. And if you did find a money transfer company willing to do it, it would be very expensive. With Bitcoin, as long as the person in Yemen has a phone and can get online, you can send them any amount, it will cost ~$2, and take minutes to do.
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#120Completely pales next to something as egregious as disposable tech that sells in the millions and only has a lifespan of 2 years tops like AirPods. They will still be washing up on beaches 100 years after every single person involved in their design has passed. Whole electronics industry needs to take this stuff more seriously, we need more replaceable batteries and storage, right to repair on a global level and laws…
You really think that AirPods are a larger cause of e-waste than dedicated Bitcoin mining equipment? Or are you comparing dedicate mining equipment to all consumer technology combined?
AirPods sell over 14 million a year, that's an astonishing amount of waste for a product with such a limited lifespan.
I'm fine with people making arguments that Bitcoin is bad for the environment, but e-waste is the least of the worries with it.