Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian elections begin
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Re: Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian elections begin
#2Hmm, I fail to see the consequences of the Russian market from Google and Apple's perspective. The Russian market is kind of inconsequential if Google, Apple lost the relationship for noncompliance with the Russian state.
You think maybe the US State Department told them to comply? There is probably a lot of user data that Google, Apple get from Russians by having access to that market.
Re: Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian elections begin
#3Notification from Apple: https://twitter.com/ioannZH/status/1438750081402953728
Re: Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian elections begin
#4Apple’s acquiescence to the Russian government’s demand to remove this app was predicted when it first came to light. Exactly at the same time as Apple was assuring world+dog that it would never acquiesce to governmental pressure to extend and expand the scope of its CSAM scanning tool on user’s devices.
Re: Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian elections begin
#5Very sad when not even the massively rich will bother to do the right thing. "Sorry, need a few more billion, so we're going to side with an oppressive regime against Democracy."
Reminds me of a Dylan line "Will all the money you made buy back your soul?"
Re: Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian elections begin
#6Hmm, I fail to see the consequences of the Russian market from Google and Apple's perspective. The Russian market is kind of inconsequential if Google, Apple lost the relationship for noncompliance with the Russian state. You think maybe the US State Department told them to comply? There is probably a lot of user data that Google, Apple get from Russians by having access to that market.
Money is money. There are tens of millions of users there. They don't want to lose a single penny.
With adequate profit, capital is very bold. A certain 10 per cent. will ensure its employment anywhere; 20 per cent. certain will produce eagerness; 50 per cent., positive audacity; 100 per cent. will make it ready to trample on all human laws; 300 per cent., and there is not a crime at which it will scruple, nor a risk it will not run, even to the chance of its owner being hanged. (с) Thomas Dunning
Re: Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian elections begin
#7Some of my friends from ex-USSR countries (not Russia) are telling me it's available there on Google Play.
Re: Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian elections begin
#8Apple’s acquiescence to the Russian government’s demand to remove this app was predicted when it first came to light. Exactly at the same time as Apple was assuring world+dog that it would never acquiesce to governmental pressure to extend and expand the scope of its CSAM scanning tool on user’s devices.
You are comparing ”apples” to oranges. App store apps are built by third parties whereas CSAM is Apple’s own code and design on OS level, applying on global level.
App store apps have been under removal threat in every country for many years if they can be considered as illegal.
Re: Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian elections begin
#9Previously, Google usually ignored such requests, but seems to have finally gave in. If they are willing to remove the app, what's next, disclosing personal information to help the regime with repressions, preventing access from Russia to other Google resources, removing YouTube videos? The "we comply with local laws" clause effectively puts citizens of opperssive regime at a disadvantage. It's not like I had an impression somebody else besides citizens of the country in question can help to fight the power, but sad news like this disillusion even more.
Re: Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian elections begin
#10Previously, Google usually ignored such requests, but seems to have finally gave in. If they are willing to remove the app, what's next, disclosing personal information to help the regime with repressions, preventing access from Russia to other Google resources, removing YouTube videos? The "we comply with local laws" clause effectively puts citizens of opperssive regime at a disadvantage. It's not like I had an impr…
Google obeys Russian laws. Of course they'll disclose any information they have given proper police request. They did that many times in the past. With Russia and with other countries.
Do you expect Google to go partisan war against Russian government?