I can't wait for Windows 11, because it means Windows 10 will become blissfully boring. Security updates, game and driver support probably for years to come.
Windows 11: Just say no
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#322The amount of kvetching and unneeded stress over what is basically a UI overhaul is astounding. If your computer doesn’t run it then it’s moot. If you’re not interested in the UI overhaul don’t install. But neither case requires the amount of wahh that were seeing.
You do realise that a UI overhaul is, for a surprisingly large number of users, essentially bricking the computer, right? And it's not just a UI overhaul; the Home version cannot be used without a Microsoft account.
"Bricking" refers to something much worse and completely different. Besides pre-release versions having a broken update is fair game in my book, surprised it hasn't happened as often as it used to to be honest.
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#323This article seems to be making a point that you shouldn't upgrade to Windows 11 right now , since you might be encounter problems that result from the upgrade. But I have bigger apprehensions about Windows 11 than just that. Windows 11 feels like the culmination of a push to turn Windows into a walled garden service rather than a utilitarian operating system for generic computing devices. Dark patterns like forced l…
Excel, Adobe products, CAD/CAM programs
Unless you use the products above professionally, you could easily make Linux as your daily driver. You don't need to be tech-savvy to install Linux distros nowadays since most of them already come with a GUI. With that, hardware issues are easily resolvable since (1) it is open-source thus simpler to troubleshoot and (2) other users probably already found a workaround. Most updates in mainstream distros are already one-click too. A lot of them just doesn't update automatically since the philosophy of Linux is "it only needs to be updated when the user explicitly asks me to."
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#324Earlier quoted context omitted.
The only people that say Win32 apps are scalable are the ones that haven't dealt with legacy code. There is jut too much legacy code that either doesn't work, or doesn't work correctly with HiDPI screens.
At a minimum, for a Win32 application to work correctly with HiDPI it needs to tell the OS it is DPI aware. This is done by marking the application DPI aware using the settings found in the manifest file. The manifest file is then embedded into the resource section of the application, which then lets the OS know the application will be handling it's own DPI. So the reason many of those 'legacy apps' don't work with H…
So you enable it by editing the manifest file and embedding the manifest file, but with legacy applications the HiDPI scaling might not be calculated correctly, or something assumes Pixels or DIP incorrectly. It might be something in a custom control in MFC, or a library or DLL where the source is long gone and no one can update, or even worst something doing something via COM and VB6.
Re: Windows 11: Just say no
#325Taskbar can no longer be moved. That single "improvement" will keep me away for as long as possible. It's the first thing I change when setting up a new Windows environment, and have done it for over a decade. I'm enough not alone that I've seen in mentioned in multiple articles. MS makes all kinds of noise about "reworking the UI from the ground up for true usability" or some such. Yet I have no idea what could poss…
Is there any logical explanation on why they did this?
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#326I have been using Windows 11 as a daily driver and don't really understand people's hostility towards it. It is definitely an upgrade over Windows 10. Comparing it to Vista is nonsensical. I don't agree with a few decisions (like making centering the menu a default?) but most are easily fixed. I would like to see them delay it to fix some problems, but it's possible those will already be fleshed out by launch.
I’m not hostile towards it, but so far i see no reason to upgrade. What new features does Windows 11 have that Windows 10 doesnt?
A lot of the features were already part of the insiders version of Windows 10 before 11 was announced. Seeing as its a free upgrade, I think of it as just another one of the semi-yearly Windows 10 upgrades (i.e. Windows 10 21H2), rather than a whole new OS. Upgrade for the same reasons you kept Windows 10 up to date.
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#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Multiple teams are fighting UI politics over WinUI, MAUI on top of WinUI, React Native with WinUI, and classical UWP is not going away (Windows 11 Store is written in it), then ASP.NET team is pushing Blazor everywhere including on Web Widgets. Great point. As a developer in the Windows sphere for decades, I'm used to change. However, at this point I have no idea what I am supposed to be developing user interfaces…
Yea vscode is really great! Could someone knowledgeable give a rundown of the exact stack/frameworks/etc they are using?
Take a look at Monaco, the editor that powers VSC: https://microsoft.github.io/monaco-editor/
The rest of it is in hosting the processes and plug-ins for it. Microsoft also developed the Language Server Protocol that provides intellisense and other features for each language: https://microsoft.github.io/language-server-protocol/
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#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
People just don't like change. There will be lots of weeping and wailing an gnashing of teeth, then people will grow accustomed to it. Same happened with 8 and 10. The furor over 8's missing start menu was intense, even though it takes literally seconds to install Classic Shell and get a better start menu than Windows 7 ever had. In 3-4 years the cycle will repeat again with Windows 12.
> People just don't like change. People don't like clearly unfinished products rushed to market before they're ready.
I wonder if people have tried the most recent W11 updates. It feels like a polished release candidate, and some in my inner circle also running W11 will say the same.
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#329Windows 11 is half-baked. But it isn't just half-baked because it was rushed out while ignoring all the feedback (although it absolutely was). It is also half-baked because Microsoft's management has no particular strategy or plan for what they want Windows to be. So Windows 11 just feels like an "and kitchen sink" where someone picked up an iPad, noted down a bunch of random features without rhyme or reason and then…
"Just say no."
For home computers, I said no many years ago and never looked back.
However I sometimes wonder, since strides have been made in booting Windows from USB and with introduction of WinPE, could we have a smaller, limited purpose Windows, bootable from USB drive. We could boot into this to edit Word documents or Excel spreadsheets or some other Office task, then power off.^1 It could boot to RAM so the HDD is never touched. Portable Windows. Normally, WinPE and Windows "boot disks" are used by Windows sysadmins, but there is nothing to limit usage to only Windows sysadmin stuff. A hypothetical Windows sysadmin and/or full-blown Windows-loving reader, who has succumbed to Redmond's propaganda, might think, "What could you even do with that. It would be useless." Yet Microsoft itself anticipates that someone might see the utility and they actively try to prevent such persons from using a fast, unbloated, telemetry and ad-free Windows.^2 Its one thing to require enterprise customers who pay annual fees to use bloated Windows N+1 but what about non-enterprise users. (Perhaps they dont count. They are just sources of data collection.)
Personally, I dont need Microsoft to tell me what is and what is not a "general purpose operating system". I will make that call and I will decide how I want to use it. This brazen disrespect for free-thinking users is why I dont use Windows (at home).
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"Windows PE is not a general-purpose operating system. It may not be used for any purpose other than deployment and recovery. It should not be used as a thin client or an embedded operating system. There are other Microsoft products, such as Windows Embedded CE, which may be used for these purposes.
To prevent its use as a production operating system, Windows PE automatically stops running the shell and restarts after 72 hours of continuous use. This period is not configurable."
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufactur...
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#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honestly, the Linux desktop experience has come so far in the past 10 years. Sure I don't think it's perfect, but it's nowhere near as bad as it was in 2008 where Windows was still king and Linux had bugs everywhere in every distro and every desktop environment. I think people should seriously consider Linux now if they can't take anymore of Microsoft's shit
Anecdotal, but I have a 2015 Lenovo X1 Carbon running Ubuntu 20 (gnome 3.38), a 2020 MBP and a 2019 MS Surface Laptop 3 (windows 10). The recent Gnome experience on hardware half a decade older than the Surface laptop is so much snappier than Windows. I dred MacOS and Windows updates these days but I'm generally very pleased with updates to Ubuntu/Gnome. Furthermore everything just works, too, which is what I grew up…
Imo gnome is better aesthetically and from a ux/feeling/default shortcuts perspective than windows and has been for seven or eight years at least. As far as I can tell the issues are graphics cards when you have both a dedicated gpu and an integrated one, and gaming/popular productivity apps. Both have been getting steadily better over time though.