Gnome to prevent theming, wider community not happy

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Post by classichasclass » Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 12:44 AM UTC

Gnome to prevent theming, wider community not happy
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Re: Gnome to prevent theming, wider community not happy

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Post by rektide » Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 1:01 AM UTC

android is just getting the ability to let users pick their colors & here's a bunch of appdeves irked that they cant override the user's ability to pick colors on linux.

i for one really really liked when i could make a nice theme, a look & feel for my computer. that was a cool time.

i dont know what the third way is. letting apps express power over the users sounds bad. wider fommunity here sounds like cantankerous bad actors.

edit: i'm way way way off here. apparently gnome won't let ANYONE theme. not users, not app-devs.

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Post by twobitshifter » Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 1:12 AM UTC

Talk about an unforced error.

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Post by vondur » Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 1:35 AM UTC

Does QT have some sort of issues with free software licenses? I wonder why QT hasn’t been used as widely as GTK. Maybe I’m mixing up GTK with Gnome?

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Post by pengaru » Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 1:36 AM UTC

The writing's been on the wall for ages on this one...

GTK+ theming was never particularly stable and I get the impression the developers are tired of dealing with avoiding breakages or the fallout when they inevitably occur. It's easier to just outright drop support for it.

But it's unclear to me to what extent theming will actually be impossible. I presume the GTK+ look and feel will still be stylized more or less by a theme, it's just the GNOME theme which will always evolve in lockstep with the internal code. This way they don't have to care about breaking compatibility with third-party themes.

TFA is too short on details.

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Post by mappu » Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 1:55 AM UTC

vondur wrote: post #4

Does QT have some sort of issues with free software licenses? I wonder why QT hasn’t been used as widely as GTK. Maybe I’m mixing up GTK with Gnome?

Both Qt and GTK are LGPL

Re: Gnome to prevent theming, wider community not happy

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Post by MR4D » Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 2:10 AM UTC

Ok, everyone, time to go back to Enlightenment and try this again.

https://www.enlightenment.org/ss/?page=2

Re: Gnome to prevent theming, wider community not happy

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Post by cheesetable » Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 2:14 AM UTC

I've been using GNOME 40 for the past few months, and I'm impressed with the level of quality: intuitiveness, polish, features.

This software works well on my Pinephone too.

I'm happy to trade my flexibility to allow the GNOME the flexibility to make improvements that benefit all.

I understand some want more flexibility, however.

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 3:06 AM UTC

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Post by TingPing » Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 3:23 AM UTC

pengaru wrote: post #5

The writing's been on the wall for ages on this one... GTK+ theming was never particularly stable and I get the impression the developers are tired of dealing with avoiding breakages or the fallout when they inevitably occur. It's easier to just outright drop support for it. But it's unclear to me to what extent theming will actually be impossible. I presume the GTK+ look and feel will still be stylized more or less…

GTK has a stable theme api. This is happening in a different layer, which is more specific to GNOME apps.