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Australian gov to use facial recognition and GPS tracking to enforce quarantine

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Re: Australian gov to use facial recognition and GPS tracking to enforce quarantine

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Post by ehnto »

syshum wrote: post #199
ehnto wrote: post #187

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You're extrapolating the pandemic situation out to the rest of societies problems and rules and we just can't have a good discussion like that. There are ways in which I agree with you about Australia's future and reducing freedoms, especially around technology and tracking. But the pandemic is not trivial, look at countries like India and America that essentially had it run free, that is a lot of death, and it wasn'…

People need to look alot closer to the data in America before they simply blame individual freedom for the deaths A HUGE percentage of the deaths in the US are from people institutionalized in government facilities. They had no freedom.. Another HUGE percentage of the deaths were people that were already unhealthy, and what I know about Australia you guys do not have them levels of general unhealthy people. America a…

I do agree, the last paragraph wasn't quite what I was suggesting. I honestly doubt you could ever have controlled American citizens enough to curb the spread anyway, much like India had no hope either. I feel it was inevitable. But for whatever reason it was able to spread, the result was that it was deadly to hundreds of thousands of people.

I don't think we gain anything by trying to qualify exactly who it killed, since over 65s are still people, as are institutionalized individuals.

Re: Australian gov to use facial recognition and GPS tracking to enforce quarantine

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Post by ephextom »

throwawayfear wrote: post #200
ephextom wrote: post #148

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Nobody is using it for the opposite narrative. Quarantine has nothing to do with enslavement. You’re being histrionic, but also inconsistent when worrying about loss of life through totalitarianism but not loss of life through preventable illness. You’ve said elsewhere that the pandemic is not deadly enough to justify the actions we’re seeing, and I somewhat agree (population-wide lockdowns have been excessive), but…

You have no power over them if they choose to keep it this way forever. Especially in Australia. What are you going to do to the contrary? And how can you guarantee they won't choose to keep it this way forever? The quaranting itself is not the enslavement. It's how they are going about it and what kinds of systems they want to build.

> It's how they are going about it and what kinds of systems they want to build.

You don’t seem to be well informed on how they’re going about it and what kind of systems “they” want to build. Who are “they”? Which of the multiple levels of government, several states and territories and multiple political parties who all have different policies and priorities do you mean? What do you mean by “enslavement”? None of it makes sense, and you’re making giant extrapolations from exaggerated and inaccurate headlines and reports in a media that you probably wouldn’t trust or believe on most other topics.

Re: Australian gov to use facial recognition and GPS tracking to enforce quarantine

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Post by dang »

hug wrote: post #163
throwawayfear wrote: post #142

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We did stay in our house for two weeks. We locked down, and things were pretty locked down around where I'm at. Also, masks work and are freely given anywhere you go to shop. And vaccines are available. And natural immunity works. All these things in conjunction help without authorities building surveillance machines that will never go away. The approach you are taking can be used to justify complete control and arbi…

> The approach you are taking can be used to justify complete control and arbitrary lockdowns whenever N cases or N deaths for any virus happen. Or for anything that can be construed as a public health crisis, including things not related to viruses. Don't you see that? Yeah, I do see that! In fact it's almost like Australia wrote an act about this stuff like 80 years ago that define the criteria and rights and respo…

You've unfortunately been posting tons of flamewar comments lately, including personal attacks. We ban accounts that do that. I don't want to ban you, so would you please stop?

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

To prevent misunderstanding: I'm not siding against your views. I've just noticed that you've repeatedly been breaking the site guidelines lately, often egregiously - and this is not something we can allow, regardless of how right you are or feel you are - because it destroys HN for its intended purpose.

Re: Australian gov to use facial recognition and GPS tracking to enforce quarantine

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Post by hug »

dang wrote: post #203
hug wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The approach you are taking can be used to justify complete control and arbitrary lockdowns whenever N cases or N deaths for any virus happen. Or for anything that can be construed as a public health crisis, including things not related to viruses. Don't you see that? Yeah, I do see that! In fact it's almost like Australia wrote an act about this stuff like 80 years ago that define the criteria and rights and respo…

You've unfortunately been posting tons of flamewar comments lately, including personal attacks. We ban accounts that do that. I don't want to ban you, so would you please stop? If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful. To prevent misunderstanding: I'm not siding against your views. I've just noticed that…

Fair. I appreciate the warning.

I will do my best to be more kind.

Re: Australian gov to use facial recognition and GPS tracking to enforce quarantine

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Post by dang »

hug wrote: post #204
dang wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've unfortunately been posting tons of flamewar comments lately, including personal attacks. We ban accounts that do that. I don't want to ban you, so would you please stop? If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful. To prevent misunderstanding: I'm not siding against your views. I've just noticed that…

Fair. I appreciate the warning. I will do my best to be more kind.

Appreciated!
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