Windows - just say no.
I bailed out of Windows when Windows 7 reached end of life. Windows 10 has ads, and that's unacceptable.
Windows 11: Just say no
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#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
and UI elements that haven't been updated since Windows 2K. Also known as "the good part"... Everything else about Windows UI since then has only gotten less usable and more hostile.
This is what drives me nuts. Why do they keep messing with the UI? Nobody wants that! Even Apple and Google have both figured out that screwing around with UX every release is a recipe for making your customers HATE you. What I, and probably non-power users want out of windows is for it to be faster and use less power. I'd honestly be happy to go back to a Win95 interface with the latest kernel. Microsoft needs to fi…
Windows used to be good UI but unstable and slow. Now it's stable and quite fast with bad UI.
Kind of like how apple was a company with so and so hardware but very appreciated software and are now a company with state of the art hardware and so and so software.
Re: Windows 11: Just say no
#183I have been using Windows 11 as a daily driver and don't really understand people's hostility towards it. It is definitely an upgrade over Windows 10. Comparing it to Vista is nonsensical. I don't agree with a few decisions (like making centering the menu a default?) but most are easily fixed. I would like to see them delay it to fix some problems, but it's possible those will already be fleshed out by launch.
People just don't like change. There will be lots of weeping and wailing an gnashing of teeth, then people will grow accustomed to it. Same happened with 8 and 10. The furor over 8's missing start menu was intense, even though it takes literally seconds to install Classic Shell and get a better start menu than Windows 7 ever had.
In 3-4 years the cycle will repeat again with Windows 12.
Re: Windows 11: Just say no
#184Windows 11 is half-baked. But it isn't just half-baked because it was rushed out while ignoring all the feedback (although it absolutely was). It is also half-baked because Microsoft's management has no particular strategy or plan for what they want Windows to be. So Windows 11 just feels like an "and kitchen sink" where someone picked up an iPad, noted down a bunch of random features without rhyme or reason and then…
> and UI elements that haven't been updated since Windows 2K. I use WindowBlinds to skin my Windows 10 to look like Windows 98. >.> It doesn't work for programs that create their own title bars or remove them entirely (like Chrome, Firefox, and Discord), but I love having 3D buttons on my task bar and windows.
can you provide a screenshot (or link to a theme) so I can see how it looks like? All of the windows classic themes I've seen for windows 8.1+ have been pretty meh.
Re: Windows 11: Just say no
#185Where is Satya lately? The last few years his face was everywhere, doing some very common sense things that got MS back to being a leading player. What the fuck is with Windows 11? Some common sense judgement could be used here.
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#186I've been using win 11 for the past couple of days. Biggest annoying thing is the right click context menu in explorer. First you right click when selecting a file and then have to pick additional options in secondary menu to get to things like 7-zip or any other context registered app. If Microsoft doesn't provide an option to disable it , then I'm staying with win10.
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#187I'm reluctant purely on the basis of MS's track record of every second version since Win '98 being crap: Win 98: good Win ME: bad Win XP: good Win Vista: bad Win 7: good Win 8: bad Win 9... well, #8 was so bad they had to skip a number Win 10: good Win 11: I'm not optimistic. 20+ years predict for badness. I'll wait until either 1) proven wrong or 2) Win 10 is EOL'ed. I just upgraded, but if I need a new system & it…
What about windows 2000, which was also considered "good"? As for windows 10 being good, I'm not so sure. It might be good now, but it was also panned on release and received 12 major updates.
Re: Windows 11: Just say no
#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah if they gave me a high DPI Windows 11 classic theme without telemetry and some actual quality control I’d be all over it. My mother also agrees with me on this. She’s been progressively hating Windows more every release too.
Looks like the “every odd release is terrible” tradition is still strong in Microsoft.
Not been on Win for a long time, but isn't Win 7 generally regarded as the best/most stable?
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#189Windows - just say no. I bailed out of Windows when Windows 7 reached end of life. Windows 10 has ads, and that's unacceptable.
>Windows 10 has ads, and that's unacceptable.
just use enterprise/ltsc.
Re: Windows 11: Just say no
#190I have to agree, even though I have plenty of pro-Windows comments. To me Windows 11 feels like Vista, and to everyone that got burned with the rewrites on the WinRT side, just using plain Win32/MFC/Forms/WPF feels liberating. Multiple teams are fighting UI politics over WinUI, MAUI on top of WinUI, React Native with WinUI, and classical UWP is not going away (Windows 11 Store is written in it), then ASP.NET team is…
Wouldn't surprise me if you reboot your computer one day and surprise! It's windows 11 now!
Remember, they did the same thing with Windows 10 a couple of times.