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Video streaming battery life improved from 12h (12 Pro Max) to 25h (13 Pro Max)

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Re: Video streaming battery life improved from 12h (12 Pro Max) to 25h (13 Pro Max)

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Post by spiderice »

threshold wrote: post #38
dmart wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, TikTok is currently the most popular social media app in the world...

I don’t think that’s the type of streaming video they optimized the IP on the SoC for. It’s clever, but not really useful. And who does it help exactly? Because the implication if you’re reduced to watching on a small screen is that you’re mobile, and on 5G. So the addicted user is now paying big $ for high speed data. Like giving a gambler a new line of credit.

The real question is, who interprets "You can stream 20 hours of video on one iPhone charge" as "you should watch 20 hours of video on one iPhone charge". The metric is clearly about battery life, not watching video.

Also,

> who watches video on a 6 inch phone today

Millions of people

Re: Video streaming battery life improved from 12h (12 Pro Max) to 25h (13 Pro Max)

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Post by turtlebits »

usui wrote: post #70
masonjson wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want to question wether Apple's work on battery management is better than Google's, but want to outline the meta of such statements. In general, I don't think it's good to compare a new bought device with the device you are replacing, since the old device is probably a couple of years old. So the specs of the old one must be worse than the specs of the new one. Another example would be Tesla buyers who are re…

This is a little presumptuous or possibly a misunderstanding of the parent's comment mentioning "old Android phone". It's entirely possible that the person did a lateral generational phone switch, but you've assumed that they upgraded to a newer phone. I love older generation phones because they're so cheap and your car comparison is perfect because buying a phone new IMO is one of the worst financial decisions you c…

iPhone resale value is very good. Many carriers also give you significant discounts on new phones.

I got two iPhone 12's for free + free line and did not sign a contract.

Re: Video streaming battery life improved from 12h (12 Pro Max) to 25h (13 Pro Max)

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Post by pb7 »

maeln wrote: post #24

Those numbers are meaningless if we don't have the benchmark specification. And Apple really love to throw numbers like this with no context (but hey, it work, so why stop).

Year after year, real world tests show that Apple’s battery estimates err on the conservative side. Enough that we should stop seeing comments like this and yet here we are.

What is meaningless is raw specs on their own. Your massive phone battery is useless if you’re using it to power a 1000W space heater.

Re: Video streaming battery life improved from 12h (12 Pro Max) to 25h (13 Pro Max)

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Post by pineconewarrior »

bserge wrote: post #80

Surprised they went with 13. It still has a negative connotation around the world. Especially among people willing to buy an iPhone.

Folks are calling the 13 an "S" tier phone(ala iPhone 5 -> iPhone 5S) disguised as a new device.

Apple decided to take the 12S design and call it the 13 for a two key reasons.

1.) they can get the unlucky number out of the way and save their big new design paradigm for 14.

2.) due to supply chain issues, it is more feasible to source the iPhone 12-esque parts for the next year. Normally they would release an S version mid-year and release the next numbered phone later that year. This gives them more time.

Re: Video streaming battery life improved from 12h (12 Pro Max) to 25h (13 Pro Max)

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Post by Steko »

bydo wrote: post #14
LolWolf wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe a hw decoder? (These already exist, but I mean, really tightly integrated with the browser.) Or some other offloading to hardware? That would be my best guess

I would think the newer 5G modem would help, too.

I’d have thought the streaming test is done over wi-fi. Maybe the Targeted Wake Time in WiFi 6 combined with higher bandwidth can account for the difference.

Re: Video streaming battery life improved from 12h (12 Pro Max) to 25h (13 Pro Max)

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Post by KVFinn »

threshold wrote: post #30

I’m sorry but who watches video on a 6 inch phone today?

My phone's OLED HDR screen (S21 Ultra) completely blows away my TV screen. Lying on the couch with the phone right up against my face is actually the closest thing to a cinematic experience I get.

Honestly it's almost better. The black levels in real cinemas are terrible.

Re: Video streaming battery life improved from 12h (12 Pro Max) to 25h (13 Pro Max)

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Post by cr__ »

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #71
dougmwne wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it is about half due to variable refresh rate and less than half due to hardware efficiency improvements, and maybe 10% due to a larger battery. The 12 and 12 Pro got 11 hours of streaming playback, the 13 gets 15 hours with it's larger battery and more efficient hardware, while the 13 Pro gets 20 hours with it's variable refresh rate. It appears that the battery on the 13 and 13 Pro are close in size since t…

> So all in all, looks like variable refresh will be a potentially very impressive feature, both for smoother UI and better battery life. And I think coming soon to macOS Monterey too. If we thought the M1 MBPs had impressive battery life at launch...

I think you’re thinking of “adaptive sync”, which is more of a gaming thing and only works when the app is fullscreened.

Re: Video streaming battery life improved from 12h (12 Pro Max) to 25h (13 Pro Max)

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Post by mkl »

gordon_freeman wrote: post #33

In general, I moved from Android to iPhone a couple of years ago and must say the battery on iPhone lasts so long compared to my old Android phone that there's no comparison really. Apple's work on iPhone battery management is impressive!

I've never had an iPhone, but I could say the same thing about my old and current Android phones. I had a Galaxy Note 4 for a few years, the last Note with a replaceable battery, and I had spare batteries that I occasionally swapped in. When I upgraded to a Note 20 I thought "oh no I can't swap batteries" and bought a power bank along with it. I've never needed it, even when travelling. At the end of each day I usually have mid 80s percent battery left. The battery's only slightly bigger, but the power management is way better.

Re: Video streaming battery life improved from 12h (12 Pro Max) to 25h (13 Pro Max)

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Post by abc_lisper »

threshold wrote: post #30

I’m sorry but who watches video on a 6 inch phone today?

Most people outside US use public transportation. It is good way to kill time on commute. This is why bigger screens became hugely popular over time. Even in US, the subways are full of people looking at their phones with earbuds

Re: Video streaming battery life improved from 12h (12 Pro Max) to 25h (13 Pro Max)

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Post by vmception »

usui wrote: post #70
masonjson wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want to question wether Apple's work on battery management is better than Google's, but want to outline the meta of such statements. In general, I don't think it's good to compare a new bought device with the device you are replacing, since the old device is probably a couple of years old. So the specs of the old one must be worse than the specs of the new one. Another example would be Tesla buyers who are re…

This is a little presumptuous or possibly a misunderstanding of the parent's comment mentioning "old Android phone". It's entirely possible that the person did a lateral generational phone switch, but you've assumed that they upgraded to a newer phone. I love older generation phones because they're so cheap and your car comparison is perfect because buying a phone new IMO is one of the worst financial decisions you c…

eh, I have the 12 pro, 256gb. did not see much in the 13 pro that was interesting and most improvements will come with iOS 15 but between my ~$700 trade in value and subsidizing the rest of the device with some accrued points from my credit card company, might as well. I definitely have wanted the portrait video mode, since apps have been doing it for a very long time, Instagram at one point had the focus filter that did that.

from my experience, buying the expensive electronic ONCE gives a lot of benefits and choices, because the future purchases aren't that expensive.

sure, I'm still likely paying more than the person that brags about how they wouldn't imagine spending even $200 on a phone, so there is no real need to have that conversation and spreadsheet analysis

but between starting with up to date technology, instead of starting with 3-6 year old technology, and having a store of value, versus a decrepit paperweight, I'm into keeping my mobile devices refreshed. Specifically my iphone.

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